Robin Hood
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What is the typical GVW of a hay wagon, and what is the width of the running gear?
Thank you for your input.
Thank you for your input.
- Thread starter Robin Hood
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See some with tandem rear axles, can pile 250+ heavy small squares on it.
Some are on 1930s car home built running gears, 75 small bales fall off the edges and make the frame sag.
I like a 7.5 foot wide by 16 foot long rack that I could pack 100 bales on, 120 if I felt ambitious or in light straw. A 5 ton gear probably was about right? Just for holding up to the bouncing over the years.
A much wider rack was hard to fit in places. A longer rack was too hard to keep up with the baler stacking behind the baler. It gets to be a long walk. As well as difficult to maneuver.
A narrower rack you cant fit 2 wide with one lengthwise down the middle. Shorter and it gets to be more time hooking and traveling than actual baling.
But, depends on your needs. With bale accumulators I can see the advantage of the 12 ton 250+ bale racks for sure!
Paul
Some are on 1930s car home built running gears, 75 small bales fall off the edges and make the frame sag.
I like a 7.5 foot wide by 16 foot long rack that I could pack 100 bales on, 120 if I felt ambitious or in light straw. A 5 ton gear probably was about right? Just for holding up to the bouncing over the years.
A much wider rack was hard to fit in places. A longer rack was too hard to keep up with the baler stacking behind the baler. It gets to be a long walk. As well as difficult to maneuver.
A narrower rack you cant fit 2 wide with one lengthwise down the middle. Shorter and it gets to be more time hooking and traveling than actual baling.
But, depends on your needs. With bale accumulators I can see the advantage of the 12 ton 250+ bale racks for sure!
Paul
BarnyardEngineering
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Running gears are rated by the ton. Smaller ones start at around "4 tons" and they go up to "15 tons" or more.
If you really put as many tons on a running gear as it is rated for, it would not last long. The rating is more of the wagon's breaking point than a useful capacity. Figure about half the rating.
Running gear width should match the wagon for best stability. Dad shopped a long time to find a running gear that was satisfactorily wide enough for some 9x20' hay wagons he wanted to buy. Normal running gears were only about 7' wide and that meant a loaded wagon would be pretty tippy on our side hills. He found these 12 ton Martin brand gears that were 8'6" wide with 12.5L-16 tires. You can take these wagons loaded where the old wood wagons would make you nervous empty.
If you really put as many tons on a running gear as it is rated for, it would not last long. The rating is more of the wagon's breaking point than a useful capacity. Figure about half the rating.
Running gear width should match the wagon for best stability. Dad shopped a long time to find a running gear that was satisfactorily wide enough for some 9x20' hay wagons he wanted to buy. Normal running gears were only about 7' wide and that meant a loaded wagon would be pretty tippy on our side hills. He found these 12 ton Martin brand gears that were 8'6" wide with 12.5L-16 tires. You can take these wagons loaded where the old wood wagons would make you nervous empty.
fastfarmall
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My only suggestion is be careful what you use for stringers, and how much of the stringer hangs behind the back wheels, we had a good rack with some heavy Alfalfa bales and went up a ditch, and broke the stringers, lost the load and had to restack, and rebuild the trailer , what a mess, and make sure you tie it down with chains around the front so it doesn't lift up on you. If your going to haul 200 bales,or better,you better have a 6 or a 8 bolt wheeled trailer, or a tandem! Most of the trailers in this area are 10x20 or 24 for the big round bales!!!!
caterpillar guy
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We have one wagon that is an old Gm truck on 8.25-20's works good for a hay wagon it is about 24 foot long. I used to load it myself when we baled straw would load 5 wide and 5 high plus the tie on top. Would hold about 200 on it like that pretty easy. This was 30 years ago now too 1980's through the 90's
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