96 percent

96 percent want air in tires?? 4 percent are on YT!!! Lol. We don't want change!

You can't plow with a steel plow, it'll poison the ground!

When my Uncle was still alive (he passed in 2006), he told a story about my Grandpa. Grandpa had a cousin selling tractor tires, but he was having no luck with Grandpa. His cousin said he would get a set of tires for Gramp's tractor and if Gramp didn't like them he'd take them back. Gampa kept the tires and that was the begining of the end of steel wheels for Grandpa.
DWF

In double trouble if a steel wheeled tractor is used!

I can see the resistance.

Wonder how many farmers owned a compressor in 1935?

And unless you had a PTO driven compressor or a spark plug inflator, it would mean take the hand pump to the field and enjoy!

Some very successful farmers I know use steel wheel on their tractors.

In 1935 my grandfather and my dad were still using horses to farm with and still did until after WWII,few in our area even had electricity to run a compressor.

Tongue in cheek, ninety years ago some of our great grand fathers might have said something like this.

Pnuematic tires on farm tractors are only doomed to failure:

Pnuematic tires add 50 percent to the cost of a new tractor;

Pnuematic tires wear out fast and will need to be replaced every ten to twenty years, adding another expensive repair at round the same time as every second engine overhaul is due;

Pnuematic tires leak air and could need to be reinflated as often as once every night;

Pnuematic tires could unexpectedly go flat, stranding the farmers at the worst possible time;

Standard car tire pumps do not have the capacity to pump up a pnuematic rear tractor tire by hand. The tire pump infrastructure will need to be replaced;

The USA does not have all the raw materials to make pnuematic tires, that would make us dependent on imports from tropical countries;

Where will add the extra air come from to inflate all those extra tires? What happens to the price of air if not enough air is available to meet demand?

Steel wheels work just fine on tractors, horse shoes have been made from steel for centuries, why change to anything different?

And the argument for all of those claims would have been............

But pn[b:8fdabbbd93]eu[/b:8fdabbbd93]matic tires will do just fine!

Oops, thanks!

Stick with horses, they dont need wheels at all and tractors dont breed their own replacements like horses can. This whole tractor fad will never catch on. Besides, all the darn exhaust smoke is going to harm the atmosphere, probably cause another ice age !

FYI. A WC Allis on steel $785.00. On rubber $960. This comes from an ad in 1939. When I first got my 1020 MD, I took it across a crick, idling, started up the far bank, ran over a rock with the rear steel wheel. The darn thing almost threw me off the tractor.

(quoted from post at 20:40:40 02/16/23) When my Uncle was still alive (he passed in 2006), he told a story about my Grandpa. Grandpa had a cousin selling tractor tires, but he was having no luck with Grandpa. His cousin said he would get a set of tires for Gramp's tractor and if Gramp didn't like them he'd take them back. Gampa kept the tires and that was the begining of the end of steel wheels for Grandpa.
DWF

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I believe Allis Chalmers was one of the leaders in putting rubber tires on tractors. I read once that this was also the technique they used--Farmer would order a new tractor on steel--the dealer would deliver one on rubber, and tell him the steel wheels were on backorder, and that they would notify him when they came in--after using them a while, most of them kept the rubber tires.

It would be funny if you had to mine the rubber with a machine on steel wheels to make the batteries er I mean tires sorry that run on fossil fuels or I mean rubber , which you are trying to replace .

HUH???

TPD

Steel wheels were on vehicles, tractors included, since the beginning of time. Rubber since 1800's. In 1830 Charles Goodyear, experimenting with rubber, accidently stumbled on a process he later name VULCANIZATION. Henry Ford, always looking to improve his machines, was interested in the new rubber tires, became good friends with Harvey Firestone and partnered in business for the use of Firestone tires on his early cars. The two were life-long friends, began their 'Four Vagabonds' group along with Thomas Edison and John Burroughs, and they spent years on camping excursions all over the country, weeks/months at a time,often with their families in tow. The two men would later have grandkids that married into their families. Martha Firestone was the granddaughter of Harvey S. Firestone and William Clay Ford was the grandson of Henry Ford. William became owner of the Detroit Lions football team Martha would assume the role when he died in 2014. When the FORDSON tractor was released, it was on steel wheels. When the 9N Tractor was released it was on rubber tires, but had steel wheels as an optional accessory. A common misconception many have is that when the FORD-FERGUSON 2N Model was released it was on steel wheels. The 2N Model didn't begin production until October, 1942 and then it was built as the 'warhorse' model with no electrics and on steel wheels. The warhorse was built thru May, 1943 and only about 10,000-12,000 units were actually built, and not all 2N's were on steel wheels, another misconception. Henry Ford sought a solution to the British dominance of rubber and so like his railroads, coal mines, copper mines, and acres of UP forest for his lumber industry, purchased land in Brazil, South America to develop the Hevea tree for rubber production and named the area Fordlandia. Despite producing many jobs and other industries in the area for residents, the project was a failure and soon was abandoned.

OLIVER!

1943 FORD-FERGUSON 2N WARHORSE MODEL:


Tim Daley(MI)

I don't think I'd want steel, but I'd be very happy with solid non-pneumatic rubber tires on all my low speed equipment. So tired of flats, slow leaks, etc.

(quoted from post at 23:08:02 02/16/23) It would be funny if you had to mine the rubber with a machine on steel wheels to make the batteries er I mean tires sorry that run on fossil fuels or I mean rubber , which you are trying to replace .

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maybe it would if one hadn't noticed that thousands of people are constantly trying to make a big deal of it.

And just 10 years later they were begging for rubber tires due to rationing.

(quoted from post at 20:05:02 02/16/23) Stick with horses, they dont need wheels at all and tractors dont breed their own replacements like horses can. This whole tractor fad will never catch on. Besides, all the darn exhaust smoke is going to harm the atmosphere, probably cause another ice age !

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Up until you went environmental, you were pretty much spot on with your assessment.