Update JD275 starter button

Geo-TH,In

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Problem solved

I went to my electrical gunk drawer where I put scrap wire I harvest for washers, dryers, microwaves and dishwashers.
I found a PBNO switch.
I drilled a half inch hole.
Used a small C clamp to hold switch in place while the JB weld dried overnight.
I then covered the half inch hole with electrical tape to to keep the dirt out.
It works as I hoped and IT WAS FREE!
 
Yes, what an ELEGANT solution vs. adding the ''start improvement kit'', what would have easily solved the problem without mutilating the dashboard and would have kept the operator safety systems in place.

As to the cost, a relay could have been sourced for little to nothing from a scrapped car, and the connection diagram was posted.

But, to each their own, that's what makes this site GREAT!
 
As to the cost, a relay could have been sourced for little to
nothing from a scrapped car, and the connection diagram was
posted.

You assumed I don't have many new and used 12v relays in my junk
drawer.

I would need to have a 12v source to activate the 12v relay.

KEEP IT SIMPLE. The micro switch was off a washer lid.
All the current to the washer motor went through the PBNO.
So why would I need a 12v relay to power up the starter
solenoid?
 
''So why would I need a 12v relay to power up the starter
solenoid?''

The little relay requires very little current to operate vs. the much larger starter solenoid.

Therefore the little relay will operate even if the ""Start'' circuit from the ignition switch though the safety switches to the starter solenoid has degraded over time. Not to mention it was marginal in the first place.

When the little relay activates it completes a much shorter circuit (with less voltage drop) from the battery cable terminal on the solenoid to the ''coil'' terminal on the solenoid to ensure the starter engages.

You are not the only person to have had the ''starts, sometimes'' issue, the folks at John Deere realized it was a problem and produced a kit to solve it.

But the solution is so simple it can be replicated with a salvaged ''ice cube'' relay and a little wire and a few terminals for very little $.
 
What if my original problem was in a safety switch, bad connection in ignition plug or Ignition
switch ? How is a 12v relay going to energize?
I would still need a momentary switch.

Easy fix using only one free part.
Thanks.
 
(quoted from post at 12:12:55 02/07/23)

''What if my original problem was in a safety switch, bad connection in ignition plug or Ignition
switch?''

In your original post on the subject you wrote: ''I hear a clicking sound when I turn the key to start, no starter''

That is TYPICALLY what happens with these machines, if it WAS making a ''clicking sound'' power was getting to the starter solenoid, but without enough voltage/current to FULLY engage it.

The little relay cures that.

But you are satisfied with your ''work around'', which is all that matters, so all is well!

I just wouldn't be bragging about defeating an operator safety system.
 
I did it my way!!
No mower in this tractor, only my tiller.
What safety devices are you talking about?
Garden tractor has an HST Transmission.
Tiller is up in the air until I get to the garden.

Previously I had an intermittent problem with the starter.

I did it my way and it works fine.
 

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