Wagon model?

Tallohioman · Dec 10, 2022

My grandfather always called this the "John Deere running gear". So, I thought it was. But, when I recently pulled it out of the fence row and had it restored, I could not find an identification tag. Additionally, I cannot find a similar John Deere model on the internet. I know my mechanic has painted it green and yellow, but can someone identify the actual make and model? Even if it is not a John Deere? By the way, the tongue is wooden with a metal tip (not shown).

Thank you,

This post was edited by Tallohioman on 12/10/2022 at 04:18 pm.

rustred · Dec 10, 2022

dont think its john deere. john deere has automotive type steering with the tie rods behind the bunk, and can be pulled at hyway speeds.
this on has that junky steering that wonders all over the road at 15 m.p.h. it does have the nice french and hecht wheels though. i have a
massey harris wagon here with that same steering setup. ihc and maclouds also had the same steering set up as yours. plus i have the john deere wagon my dad bought new in early 60's. on that one a wood
tongue might have been for horses. dad had to have the longer wood tongue made for his when the wagon was used for thrashing. still have that
also.

Alvin 41 · Dec 10, 2022

I don't think it's JD either.Too many extra parts and braces and wheel hubs don't have the caps JD used on cage roller bearing hubs. Not IHC either.

jm. · Dec 10, 2022

I agree with you on the wheels, I think the dead give away is going to be how the flat tie rods adjust, not something you see ever day. too nice to be shop built but we are going to have to do some searching to find the right manfactur of that unit. Sure a nice restoration down to the new tires.

Johnnypopper · Dec 10, 2022

Parts of it look like McCormick Deering but other parts dont

Janicholson · Dec 10, 2022

Our early McCormick wagon had those loop topped bolster uprights, and the same wheels. The wheels had Blue Paint on them in places. Roller Bearings. Jim

used red MN · Dec 10, 2022

Look for letters in the cast wheel hubs, may give you a
clue as to the manufacturer. Also patent numbers can
help as well, if you find some just search for them
online.

Moonlite37 · Dec 11, 2022

Just call it a John Deere and enjoy like your dad did, I also have doubts it being a John Deere

rrlund · Dec 11, 2022

I thought the same thing. Has a lot of similarities to one I have.

Bob N.Y. · Dec 11, 2022

It looks like the McCormick wagon our neighbor had many years ago.

Johnnypopper · Dec 11, 2022

Here is a photo of the front end of my McCormich Deering.
It is not that similar to your wagon. I had originally thought
the front part of mine was the same as yours.

Tallohioman · Dec 11, 2022

More clues;

The front end has the number 802 cast in it. I dont
know if thats a model or part number. Also, the spoke
wheels have Nostrain or No Strain cast in the hubs

Timmycornpicker · Dec 11, 2022

Well, now we know why he thought it was a John Deere because they did make an 802 running gear, but it didn't look at all like this one.

Tallohioman · Dec 11, 2022

Here are the new photos

Tallohioman · Dec 13, 2022

Let's try this again....

Wheel hubs have Nostrain or No Strain cast into each one.

Front of running gear has 802 cast into a couple of the parts.

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