I need to haul a non running John Deere G home which weighs about 5000 lbs. I have used the typical ratcheting cable pullers before, but have always thought about buying a winch. I have seen the usual 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500, and 4000 lbs 12 volt battery winches at various farm/home stores and Harbor Freight. What would be recommended to pull a tractor up the ramps and onto a typical car type trailer. Thanks.
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john in la
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I will not give you a winch size because there is a lot to figure the correct setup.
The height of your trailer; the angle of your ramps; are any of the tires flat; do the brakes drag......
What I will say though is that with enough proper sized snatch blocks and a long enough cable a 2,000 lb winch will drag 200,000 lbs across the ground. So when you look at the winch notice how long the cable is related to how far your biggest pull will be then compare the price of a snatch block vrs upgrading to a bigger winch.
The height of your trailer; the angle of your ramps; are any of the tires flat; do the brakes drag......
What I will say though is that with enough proper sized snatch blocks and a long enough cable a 2,000 lb winch will drag 200,000 lbs across the ground. So when you look at the winch notice how long the cable is related to how far your biggest pull will be then compare the price of a snatch block vrs upgrading to a bigger winch.
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
Get the most powerful one you can afford and a snatch block to add power and slow the pull speed down.No one complains that their winch will pull too much.
Janicholson
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75 ft of aircraft quality wire rope, with appropriate strength, and thimbles at the hooks can make a big difference in range when using snatch blocks. Jim
rustred
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a winch rated for 8500 lbs will pull that tractor up like nothing. mine is 8500 and have pulled up 806 and cockshutt 1755 and case 900 it got it done but the winch was grunting, as the tractors are over 10,000 lbs. your G is lots lighter. use a good battery even 2 in parallel is the key. dont get anything under 5000 lbs.
Crookedwrench
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My Harbor Freight 12K winch is mounted pretty high on my gooseneck and works well. Same winch mounted low on my car hauler needs the snatch block on heavy machines. The HF 12K does not compare to my old Warn 8K. Snatch block is your friend. Short draws on the battery is your friends cousin!
I will not confess to all the wrong things I have done with winches.
Don
I will not confess to all the wrong things I have done with winches.
Don
John in Mich
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- Ypsilanti, Michigan
Ditto the HF 12000 lb winch. I have it with a wireless remote. I also have a 5000 lb winch in my 24' cargo trailer. Works very well for my wagon running gear/flat rack that I have loaded for tractor swap meets, also with wireless remote. I steer the wagon with one hand backing it in and the other controlling the remote.
In 2007 I bought a new Harbor Freight 9000 lb winch..Its still running 15 years later..I always use a snatch block and there hasn't been a thing that I couldnt drag on a trailer...If its a dead pull I stop every 20 seconds and let it cool down..Today you can probably get a new Harbor Freight 12,000 lb winch for as cheap as what I paid for the 9000 lb winch.
BarnyardEngineering
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- Rochester, NY
I've pulled an International 240 up on my trailer using a 2000lb winch, single line. It was all the winch wanted to do and it almost stalled so I would not recommend that. If I had used a snatch block and doubled the line, it would have been fine.
One thing about winch ratings, that "12,000lb pull" is only for the first wrap of cable on the spool. As the cable wraps up on the spool, it gets larger in diameter, reducing the mechanical advantage. So a 12,000lb winch with 4 wraps of cable only has like 6000lbs of pull.
Still overkill for a 5000lb tractor on inflated tires.
If you just want something cheap to get the job done the 2000lb winch with a snatch block will do the job and you'll be into it for about $100 all in. $
I personally have an 8000lb winch on my trailer which I got on clearance from Tractor Supply, otherwise I probably would have invested in the 12,000lb winch.
One word on those larger winches is, they are HEAVY. I have mine mounted on a receiver so that it can be moved from the trailer to a truck if I ever needed to winch myself out. It feels like it weighs as much as a 100lb suitcase weight.
One thing about winch ratings, that "12,000lb pull" is only for the first wrap of cable on the spool. As the cable wraps up on the spool, it gets larger in diameter, reducing the mechanical advantage. So a 12,000lb winch with 4 wraps of cable only has like 6000lbs of pull.
Still overkill for a 5000lb tractor on inflated tires.
If you just want something cheap to get the job done the 2000lb winch with a snatch block will do the job and you'll be into it for about $100 all in. $
I personally have an 8000lb winch on my trailer which I got on clearance from Tractor Supply, otherwise I probably would have invested in the 12,000lb winch.
One word on those larger winches is, they are HEAVY. I have mine mounted on a receiver so that it can be moved from the trailer to a truck if I ever needed to winch myself out. It feels like it weighs as much as a 100lb suitcase weight.
I have a H.F. 12,000 lb winch and it'll pull anything up onto my trailer that wont overload it (10K GLVW). Dont forget a snatch block to multiply your pull, and a few gallon jugs of slippery water to help skid on any tires that wont turn.
Oh, yeah, and synthetic rope over woven steel cable any day!
Oh, yeah, and synthetic rope over woven steel cable any day!
Hdonly
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- Florida Panhandle
Have and old 3500lb Warn Winch on my hauler that is 25+ years old. Has never failed to straight pull small tractors, cars and 1/2 ton trucks up on trailer.
buickanddeere
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5000lbs on a 10,000lb winch is about maximum recommended .
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