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Philip d

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I emptied a fuel tank this spring into a couple of 45 gallon DEF drums. I made sure they were empty and triple rinsed them with a few quarts each time of fuel before filling them up. Reading that DEF is the worst contamination to a Diesel engine , since I triple rinsed would that eliminate any chance of contamination? Thanks in advance
 
Morning : It sounds like a plan, but i won't say anything as to being in the know...can i ask what a barrel of DEF is worth? These barrels are from the Potatoe operations ? nobody big enough around here to carry more than a gal jug in the equip as stock.
keep your electrons in the wire....
 
Im not really sure what theyre worth ? I remember when we had 2 tractors using it I looked into it but unless you got a 1000L tote there was no volume savings at all and even then it was minimal. I could also use the fuel in the former DEF barrels in our furnace barrel once its lower and not worry about it in the Kubota. Might be the best option but just curious.
 
I stupidly dumped 2-1/2 gallons of DEF into my diesel tank by mistake one day. Just wasn't thinking that day. I caught it before I started the engine. It was hauled to a shop where they pumped the fuel out (spraying diesel all over the truck, engine, windshield..etc). After that, the water in the separator light came on a few 3 times. I had to pull over, drain the filter and carried on. No problem.
 
I wouldn't see it as being any more destructive than water.

As long as the containers were dry inside it shouldn't be a problem.
 
DEF is soluble in water. If you rinsed a few times with clean water and allowed it to dry. You should be fine.
 
DEF is very corrosive to most metals and fuels systems dont like it. Im frugal, fuel is expensive, if you havent disturbed the barrels if there was any DEF or water left it should be laying on the bottom. I would make sure I didnt pull off the bottom and use the last 20L for lighting bonfires.
 
Yes me too , Im kinda on the fence, all I have now is a 35hp compact and a Massey Harris diesel . I put 70 hours on the compact this year and only used maybe 150l of fuel. I have 1 45 gallon drum that was previously used for fuel to start with, we only use the oil furnace for backup heat so I still may use the fuel in the DEF barrels for the furnace.
 
Have any coons in your area where they can get to the drums? I wanted to store gasoline one time but didn't have any place safe to do it. I had a bunch of 5 gallon plastic containers made for chemicals so I put gas in them and set them in the woods away from any structure. Then a few weeks later I took another couple containers back there and found coons had chewed into every one of the containers I had and it had rained since I put them out there. Lost about 20 gallons of gas. Anything that has an odor whether pleasant or not a coon will tear into.
 


I would have rinsed the barrels aggressively with plain water first. If you used 40 gal for each one you would be sure that the DEF was gone after you dumped the water out. Since there is probably just a little still there I would set my pump to pull from an inch off the bottom, because as tractorsam posted you can be sure that the DEF will be on the bottom.
 
If it gets cold where you are the def will freeze then pump off the fuel and there should be no problem. though in the future I would use old def containers for squirt can oil and old oil barrels for fuel storage. Or just get some old furnace fuel tanks to store fuel in. We have 3 fuel tanks for farm fuel and one tank for gas storage.
 
An employee put def into the diesel tank of one of our pickups. $14000+ later we got our pickup back from the mechanic. I would use it for heating fuel or throw it away before I would take a chance on an engine.
 
I'm not sure I'd let all the doom and gloom naysayers get to you on this one.

We're talking about a few TEASPOONFULLS of DEF here, not gallons and gallons of it. Right?

What was the rinsing regimen? Just poured a little fuel in the bottom and swished it around? Bounced the barrel around the yard like a rodeo bull? Did you get the barrel dry before filling with fuel?
 
Their not a UL approved container. If the cops or DOT wants to get sticky they can stop you and cause you trouble. Heaven help you if they are plastic. Not saying they will bother you, I'd stay off any interstates.
 
(quoted from post at 23:44:05 11/15/22) Their not a UL approved container. If the cops or DOT wants to get sticky they can stop you and cause you trouble. Heaven help you if they are plastic. Not saying they will bother you, I'd stay off any interstates.
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What gives you the idea that Phil is planning to put the drums on a vehicle?
 
(quoted from post at 05:45:35 11/16/22)
(quoted from post at 23:44:05 11/15/22) Their not a UL approved container. If the cops or DOT wants to get sticky they can stop you and cause you trouble. Heaven help you if they are plastic. Not saying they will bother you, I'd stay off any interstates.
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What gives you the idea that Phil is planning to put the drums on a vehicle?
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How else you gonna get the fuel into the barrels? If you're going to put it in 5 gallon cans then cart it home and pour it in the barrels, you may as well leave it in the 5 gallon cans. Either you have enough cans to fill the barrels, or you're making multiple trips. The only way it's worthwhile is to take the barrel to the fuel station and fill it directly.
 
(quoted from post at 06:29:49 11/16/22)
(quoted from post at 05:45:35 11/16/22)
(quoted from post at 23:44:05 11/15/22) Their not a UL approved container. If the cops or DOT wants to get sticky they can stop you and cause you trouble. Heaven help you if they are plastic. Not saying they will bother you, I'd stay off any interstates.
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What gives you the idea that Phil is planning to put the drums on a vehicle?
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How else you gonna get the fuel into the barrels? If you're going to put it in 5 gallon cans then cart it home and pour it in the barrels, you may as well leave it in the 5 gallon cans. Either you have enough cans to fill the barrels, or you're making multiple trips. The only way it's worthwhile is to take the barrel to the fuel station and fill it directly.
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Try reading the OP again.
 
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