OMG - Pesticide Prices

Had to vent.....last time I purchased Roundup Concentrate was 9/3/2020 and I paid $61 for a 2.5 gallon container. Went to purchase more today for spraying some fields and that same container is now $148. Holy inflation batman. 142% increase......

Dont try to buy fertilizer then......... be sitting down.

Seed is up only 7-12% as well, but at least that follows our commodity prices some I guess.

Paul

I see a future with grassy, weed infested crop fields ravaged by crop destroying insects, yards that look like jungles, and angry people that have no way to cool their houses in summer or heat them in winter. Cant travel except by foot,animal, or bicycle. Eat one sparse meal a day..

At least grain prices lead the inflation ramp-up rather than trailed it. Grain prices doubled, now everything else is just catching up.

We used to grow crops without chemicals and got a long fine,didn't have AC and I haven't used mine this Summer.I use Zero pesticides on my farm and gardens.The Gravy Days are coming to a close.As far as yards absurd what people spend these days on yards,buy some geese and sheep then eat your extra little lawn mowers that showed up at the end of the season.

Time to break out the hoe. Round up is only used for weed control around my buildings. Stan

Just priced Potash yesterday and was 990 or there about per ton. Phosphate was about the same. didn't price urea nor 28.

You and I often but heads on topics like this, I hope you enjoy the conversations and often times I think we are closer to the same than different. Just looking at things from a different perspective.

I agree folk could feed themselves if they gave up yoga and sports and just spent a little time on a garden on their lawn. Gardens usually do well enough they could share with people that dont have lawns and a lot of people would get food. If anyone wanted to be neighborly and work together.

But it looks like people really dont want to do that. They rather go to the gym and the sports...... and not talk to the neighbors.

If we dont use fertilizer, there isnt enough manure created to fertilize our crops. Most organic setups start with good land and then import manure or kelp from other land, and tell us they are sustainable. Sounds good, but it doesnt work.

If we export meat or dairy or crop, we need to replace those in the soil. Nitrogen can be grown, but that takes time and sun and water, so it still decreases the overall crop production. P, K and the macro and micro nutrients have to be replaced from somewhere.

Generally organic sustainable systems, whatever that really means, produce less food per acre than conventional farming. So, you need more acres to grow the same crops to feed people.

We could get around some of that. But people talk about it, thry dont want to do it.

So I dont see where that path goes. Ends up a lot of hot air, but no results.

I think its great some folks have the wealth and opportunity to buy organic stuff if they want, and certainly neighbors sharing a garden is a wonderful thing. For, unfortunately, the few that wish to do so. Im glad we have an open system that allows people choices.

Since I use a coop elevator that actually receives a fair amount of organic bulk grains, I see the grain as it comes from the fields. They load trains and ship often to organic chicken feeders, as well as others.

In general, that organic corn is weed filled, dusty, shriveled, poor testing from the look of it. You know, the conventional side also has its bad years and can be a mix of poor stuff too. But year in and year out, the organic stuff tends to be much worse.

I think the direct sales organic folk do a lot better, thry have to. And certainly one can have great organic results! I bet your fields look cleaner then mine, we had a tough year here for weed control.......

Anyhow, I love sharing garden stuff with my neighbors, Im not concerned about organic or not.I sure wouldnt want to eat at a Chipotles or other mass market organic place, as I see the quality, or lack of it, for what they get....... Phewie!

Its a big world out there. Customers are all ways right, but they want no fuss, fast food, that keeps them skinny and fit and tastes great and is cheap. Oh, and if you ask they want it organic too, but they dont really even know that that means.

So, we see the world a little different. Not bad or good, or right or wrong. Just different.

Paul

Who said anything about organics but I'll put my organic pastures and garden and the livestock on them up against anyone's.Chemical farming is pricing itself out of the market.Plus USA is producing way too much corn and soybeans.Need to quit growing for the Ethanol and Chinese markets and start growing more things that people can eat.Industrial ag would be bankrupt tomorrow without Farm welfare from the gov't and all signs point to that happening in the not to distant future.Big ag will crumble in a truly free market.

I think soil conservation on cover crops is the way to go.
It regenerates the soil.
Also, fixing biological problems with biology is the way to go.
Seeding right in cover crops is unexpensive, preserve the soil by remiving erosion.

Seeding multiple seeds is the way to go to feed the soil and protect the plant you want to harvest from pest. Major issues is most farmers have not been trained to do that. We rather are trained to.leatn machineries and chemical peoducts. Both are just bandaids and the real root cause for the need of those prodctd are often soil abnormalities, or habits.

Is roundup a Pesticide?

How about goats?

$159 @ rural King 2.5 gallons 50.2%

Pesticide is the general term for a product you use to kill unwanted stuff on the farm. Herbicide, fungacide , pesticide, homocide, 9mmcide.

yep, just like in the 70's, when Russia bought the wheat from the USA !

Well what do you expect. The ambulance chasers went after Glyphosate and somebody has to pay the bill...........we the people!

Their current target is the USMC. Deeper pockets.

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