What kind of Ford tractor do I really have?

Satohbill

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I recently purchased a Ford Tractor. It has a 601 Workmaster Decal on the side, a 600 emblem on the from. The model stamped near the starter says it is a 660. Tractor has the 5 speed tranny with the push up and down shifter. Did the Workmaster 601 offer a Model 660? I want to try to restore it but would like to know for sure what it is? I am having PTO issues and want to make sure I order the right parts.
 
Look at your clutch pedal and see if it has 2 holes for different positions by just moving a pin? If yes you do have a 660 with a 2 stage clutch You can put the pin in one hole and it will act like a normal clutch but in the other hole push the pedal have way down to stop tractor and all the way down to stop both tractor motion and PTO. First type of live pto. the 650 was only a 5 speed without the live pto option and the 640 was a 4 speed transmission. The 601 was the Workmaster and was with a red hood and the 661 or 660 transmissiond were the same. If you have a 660 or 661 you have a very scarce tractor as a lot of them only had the PTO like the 9N, 8N, 2N, NAA. Still half a sleap.
 
I think your pto issues are only you have dot figured our the 2 stage clutch and need no parts.
 
Not to me. The nose piece was the same for the 600 and 601 tractors and transmission housing probably was same casting for bothe the 600 and 661 plus the early 4 cylinder 2000 tractors. No need to just change a casting Number just for changing model and minor enging parts to raise HP and change to different paint to give a fresh look.
 
(quoted from post at 05:32:27 08/08/22) Look at your clutch pedal and see if it has 2 holes for different positions by just moving a pin? If yes you do have a 660 with a 2 stage clutch You can put the pin in one hole and it will act like a normal clutch but in the other hole push the pedal have way down to stop tractor and all the way down to stop both tractor motion and PTO. First type of live pto. the 650 was only a 5 speed without the live pto option and the 640 was a 4 speed transmission. The 601 was the Workmaster and was with a red hood and the 661 or 660 transmissiond were the same. If you have a 660 or 661 you have a very scarce tractor as a lot of them only had the PTO like the 9N, 8N, 2N, NAA. Still half a sleap.
Where exactly are these 2 holes located. Are they in the shaft or in the flat of the pedal. I am not home right now so i can't check
 
Yes, its a 600 series, but a 641 is a 4 speed, a 651 is a 5 speed, a 661 is 5 speed with live pto. Then there is the are the two sos models. As others have said.. clutch pedal MUST be in the high position for the pto clutch to work correctly. And in the low position when plowing and the pto is not needed. The low position is only for driver comfort.
 

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This is what it looks like on a Fordson Dexta but should be very similar. Front hole-normal operation, rear hole-when you need the PTO. I always go back into the front hole as soon as I finish using the PTO, do not have to lift your leg so high to change gear.
 
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This is what it looks like on a Fordson Dexta but should be very similar. Front hole-normal operation, rear hole-when you need the PTO. I always go back into the front hole as soon as I finish using the PTO, do not have to lift your leg so high to change gear.
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Thanks for that great info. But my PTO was working fine and then it just stopped while I was bush hogging
 
I am thinking its likely a 660 with 601 stickers. There are
folks here that know precisely the changes made when Ford
went to the XX1 series in 1957, but there are not a lot of
differences. Have you checked Tractordata.com?



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Since it is a Ford it is the good kind. Since it is either a 600 or 601 it is a utility type.
 
You say that it just stopped working while bush hogging. First check that the PTO engagement lever is all the way back (engaged) and try it again. And with the
engine off, try pushing in and pulling out on the PTO shaft in the tractor, it shouldn't move. There is a bearing in the axle housing that locates the PTO shaft,
if the bearing housing breaks the shaft can move forward when the implement tilts up in the back and the engagement lever will be pushed forward and disengage the
PTO. If the PTO implement shaft isn't kept well lubricated so it slides within itself freely it can cause the PTO shaft bearing to break inside the rear axle.
This website sells replacements, trust the transmission stamp not the decorative decal.
 
(quoted from post at 21:06:33 08/08/22) You say that it just stopped working while bush hogging. First check that the PTO engagement lever is all the way back (engaged) and try it again. And with the
engine off, try pushing in and pulling out on the PTO shaft in the tractor, it shouldn't move. There is a bearing in the axle housing that locates the PTO shaft,
if the bearing housing breaks the shaft can move forward when the implement tilts up in the back and the engagement lever will be pushed forward and disengage the
PTO. If the PTO implement shaft isn't kept well lubricated so it slides within itself freely it can cause the PTO shaft bearing to break inside the rear axle.
This website sells replacements, trust the transmission stamp not the decorative decal.

Great information. Thank you
 

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