Dead beans and missing hay

tomstractorsandtoys · Jul 22, 2022

I can't seem to win lately. I rent about 3 acres of land and a machine shed across the road from our farm. Coop was spraying the neighbors soybeans and killed my 1 1/2 acres and tonight I went to bale my little patch of grass hay only to find the custom baler that was baling the neighbors had already baled mine. The neighbor has a right of way through this little place so I can see how both things happened. It was second cut grass and very thin. Neighbor lives two miles away, told me to grab a bale out of his field so I guess I got the better end of the deal. Not real upset or anything as the neighbor and the coop are going to make things right. Guess there are going to have to be a few post put in but that just makes for more weeds and a pain to mow around. Hasn't been a problem for the last 15 years but has been twice this year. Tom

coonie minnie · Jul 22, 2022

I had the dead beans thing this year too. Seems my neighbor sprayed dicamba on his across the street, and enough came across the street to pucker up 8 to 10 acres of mine. I know the feeling...

4520BW · Jul 22, 2022

I had 40 acres of E3 sprayed with diacambia. I had the text i sent to coop saying E3 so they paid up.

Eagle Beagle · Jul 22, 2022

This is from the Enlist website, supposed to be tolerant of dicamba.

Take control of weeds like never before with the Enlist weed control system. Unlock superior, neighbor-friendly weed control by planting crops with the Enlist trait. Youll get herbicide tolerance to 2,4-D choline, glyphosate and glufosinate when you plant Enlist E3 soybeans and Enlist cotton. See what a better seed and herbicide system can bring to your fields.

Biggest problem with custom sprayers is that they want to spray when the wind is 15-20 mph and they kill the brome in the waterways.
I can understand that they have to cover a lot of acers in a narrow window of time.

Beagle

paul · Jul 22, 2022

Even when it works out ok with folk that make it right more or less.

It sure is a bother, and just kinda bugs a person.

I know the feeling.

Paul

fixerupper · Jul 22, 2022

I am sticking up for custom sprayers somewhat. They have X amount of acres to spray with a deadline on the calendar and Mother Nature doesn t always cooperate.

The reason I used the word somewhat is because a custom sprayer killed all of my waterways being in too big of a hurry to shut the boom off. This is the reason I now have my own sprayer. What put the icing on the cake is when I saw a picture of this custom sprayer guy in the paper being presented a plaque for covering the most acres for the year.

In my area we either have dicamba beans with nice shiny flat leaves or we have blistered non dicamba beans. Mine are blistered but I don t think bad enough to have economic damage.

Absent Minded Farmer · Jul 23, 2022

I think the co-ops are stuck with hiring out idiot kids. Had a kid from Helena do a burn down in the field behind my house. Burned off half of the west side of the lane with it, dug the end of the boom into the slope leading up to the lane about mid way down & then went to turn away from it & smacked the boom on the lone boxelder in the middle of the lane. In a separate incident, there was the kid that was driving the truck with the fertilizer tender that turned around in my hay field & got stuck in the wet vs pulling into the top of the lane, backing the trailer into the wide area of lawn opposite my field & head toward the road. A simple Y turn. Offered to pull his rig out of the mud & he shot me a quick 'n' snotty NO! I have to call the boss for a tow. I said ok, man & headed back to the house. Got a call about 15 minutes later, from the co-op, asking if I could pull him out. They don't have a spare truck available to send, much less a tow truck.... nor are they calling one. So, I hopped on the tractor to go save the hapless (hopeless??) kid.

Some peoples kids!

Mike

Bruce from Can. · Jul 23, 2022

These kinds of spraying problems shouldnt happen. The fields are GPS mapped and the information is put into the spray rig. Once the perimeter of the field has been established the GPS and hands free steering should put the spray down where it is supposed to go. Yes drift do to wind could still occur.
It seems that it is becoming harder and harder to attract employees that are willing and capable to work. As I recall, it has always been difficult to hire competent seasonal workers, because if they are any good, they get a full time job. Our Co-op relies more and more on older guys that have retired in their late 50s or early 60s and become bored. Or are just looking for a bit of extra cash to buy a new toy. A boat, tractor, car whatever. These are great employees but, they mostly only stay until they get the cash they were looking to pickup or remember why it was they retired in the first place.

8850dave · Jul 23, 2022

Funny thing is those puckered up beans may yield better at harvest seen and heard that many times in my area

caterpillar guy · Jul 23, 2022

I'm pretty fussy about my waterways. I've been told they didn't want to spray a burn down one time over not being able to see them. I see fields neighbors have that the renter doesn't worry about them and one has ruined the tile across 50 acres that connected to ours and now has to work through the wash ditches he has made from it. It is making more and deeper ditches each year. I suppose one day he will quit working it and she will want somebody to work it. If it comes to me I will work it for about a 13 of what she is probably getting now. It will take a lot of work and time to fix the damage and then keep it in that shape. I tell the guys you hate the water way but you like not hitting your heads on the roof or breaking the booms. They always agree.

Traditional Farmer · Jul 23, 2022

Makes me glad I don't have any neighbors farming as I farm the only farm that joins mine.Living in Semi Suburbia has its good side.

NY 986 · Jul 23, 2022

A neighbor sprayed while really windy a few years ago. His Dicamba drifted over onto my RR1 soybeans. I figure it cost me 15,000 dollars in reduced yield. As of today no apology nor any compensation for damage. Just an accusation that I put Dicamba on RR1 beans. I am extremely tired as to the nature of how most people conduct themselves today.

coonie minnie · Jul 23, 2022

I've heard that too. With everything this year, if beat up beans yield better, mine are gonna run about 190 bu/ac!

J.Wondergem · Jul 23, 2022

(quoted from post at 05:24:32 07/23/22) These kinds of spraying problems shouldnt happen. The fields are GPS mapped and the information is put into the spray rig. Once the perimeter of the field has been established the GPS and hands free steering should put the spray down where it is supposed to go. Yes drift do to wind could still occur.
It seems that it is becoming harder and harder to attract employees that are willing and capable to work. As I recall, it has always been difficult to hire competent seasonal workers, because if they are any good, they get a full time job. Our Co-op relies more and more on older guys that have retired in their late 50s or early 60s and become bored. Or are just looking for a bit of extra cash to buy a new toy. A boat, tractor, car whatever. These are great employees but, they mostly only stay until they get the cash they were looking to pickup or remember why it was they retired in the first place.

Yup. I know that feeling. I retired in 09 from driving truck and now get called by a friend when he has a driver quit. 4 week ago I broke in a new driver for 2 days, then he didn't show up to work, didn't call in either. Just broke in another one that I think will stay. He's going on vacation in a couple of weeks for a week, so I'll be back in the truck again. I turned 80 last april.

IAfarmguy · Jul 23, 2022

E.B. Enlist beans are not tolerant to dicamba. They are tolerant to Roundup, Liberty and Enlist herbicides. Enlist is not dicamba. It is the 2,4-D choline. The Enlist with the choline is different than 2,4-D amine or ester that we grew up using. The choline formulation has almost no chance of volatilization or moving after application. This is my understanding. Please consult your agronomist or product label for more details.

Northvale PA · Jul 23, 2022

We have a older BTO who owns the land to both sides of us. He drifts sprays about 10 into our fields from the west and loops his combine and planter thru our fields from the east. Thats his corn in the photo. His son farms it too, and does none of that. Just the old guy.

Hay hay hay · Jul 23, 2022

It is too bad that these new chemicals have drift side effects , because a high percentage of the population just does not care how their actions impact their neighbors. We still have some tobacco grown here and it is really sensitive to drift. These are the same oblivious folks that blast their motorcycles past a church during services, etc etc etc.
I suspect it was always true, but 50 years ago the louts had less ways to cause mindless impact on others. If they think I am impressed by how much pointless vehicle noise they can make.....they are wrong. Any idiot can make a lot of useless noise.

Hay hay hay · Jul 23, 2022

I am sure that you are aware that there have been several farmers killed by their neighbors over dicamba disputes. Be careful. This is very emotional and people no longer settle disputes with their fists.

Secret Squirrel · Jul 23, 2022

We have neighbors here that use their sprayers like most people use a pickup truck. Closest neighbor has sprayed his beans 4 times already. We have dicamba kill. They don't care. They spray wind or not. Last year they sprayed the same field seven times. We farm on a smaller scale, and I know about the pitfalls. I just wish some would be more responsible.

tomstractorsandtoys · Jul 23, 2022

This was a coop mistake. They drove in and sprayed my field when spraying his. His are 15 inch rows and mine are 30 inch so I am not sure how it happened and mine had been sprayed a few days earlier with Enlist so the weeds in my field were already dead. Another neighbor is complaining about drift damage to his fields. Tom

NY 986 · Jul 23, 2022

People like your neighbor are the reason why Dicamba came within a razor blade of being banned in NY. As it is it is restricted to no use after June 30. Even the tough guy BTO here just sprayed beans with Synchrony this past week for what it is worth.

NY 986 · Jul 23, 2022

I'm guessing that within a few years all these chemicals will be banned in most states. Too bad that people can't be more responsible in using chemicals but everybody thinks they have to be a tough guy today.

4520BW · Jul 23, 2022

You are correct! They are 2 totally different products.

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