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super99 · Jul 8, 2022

I'm 70 now, when I was a kid, I helped grandad and neighbors in the field as much as school would allow. I spent many hours on M Farmalls, U Minnies, WD AC's and 2 cylinder JD's. I learned how to set a plow from watching older folks do it and then I would be left alone to plow. So many people want to plow now at shows and plow days and don't have a clue how to set up a plow. I watched one young fellow at a plow day years ago. His buddy was pulling a 2 bottom trip plow in cornstalks and stopped to talk. He asked him if he wanted to try it out and the guy said that he had never plowed before, but he would go a round. He got on the tractor and took off, tripped the plow, open the throttle and never looked back until the plow was plugged and riding 2 feet off of the ground. He stopped and pulled the trip lever. Seeing that didn't do any good, he turned the mess around and drove back to the end and said, I'm done and got it his truck and left.
The club I belong to has a fall show with corn picking and bean combining and plowing. I've spent a couple of hours each day helping guys get their plows set so they work, some guys get pissy and won't let you help them do a better job. The plowed fields are so uneven that we have to work them crossways several times to get them anywhere near level for next year. The furrows are never straight and when plowing the back lands, instead of tripping out and leaving a 10 or 15 foot wide strip to finish out, they plow right up till the furrows meet and then try to turn on plowed ground and they are a pain to plow in the dead furrows. Just my experiences, how many of you guys can set a plow and how many just hook on and go and never look back?? Chris

rustred · Jul 8, 2022

i am looking rearward more that forward when plowing. i want to see what the implement is doing and telling me. i learned to plow with the W-6 and 3/16 John Deere plow. still have the plow.

J Hamilton · Jul 8, 2022

I've seen that at shows too. Some barely scratch the ground and others are set as deep as it will go. And some especially if a diesel, they are trying to go as fast and deep as they can just to see the black smoke. In my opinion they need to be hooked to a sled not a plow. If someone was trying to help and show me what adjustments to make I would be taking notes. Like you said, it's a lost art that not many can do.

gene bender · Jul 9, 2022

That was the bad thing about plowing was to look back to make sure everything was working. I do agree watching some plow is terrible like you said some barely have the plow in the ground dont know how to cut a clean furrow and for sure dont have or know how to set the joiners or the rolling cutters then show a pic of their plowing and its just terrible

sms · Jul 9, 2022

Only plowing I've ever done is the home garden. Don't know much but do look back. I am always willing to learn.

Charlie M · Jul 9, 2022

I plow with a Farmall M and 3-14 JD plow and have to say I don't look back at the plow enough. I've lost too much motion in my neck and back to look back easily any more. If I'm plowing corn stalks that I know could plug up a plow I'd be trying to watch more. With those old plows I would more likely have chopped the stalks first to avoid potential problems.

Bonnan · Jul 9, 2022

Typical, they simply do not realize what they don't know or give that possibility any thought.

Majorman · Jul 9, 2022

I love ploughing, I started when I was 11 using a Field Marshal and a two furrow Cockshut plough. That was after many early years walking behind my father, ploughing with a single furrow horse plough in the late 1940's.

My father was my biggest critic (in a nice way). He was always aiming to get me as near perfect as I could be. Even when I was competitive ploughing, he would walk behind telling me what to adjust.

My best work came when he was in his final days, I ploughed our field with the Nuffield and Ransomes TS82, two furrow reversible. All the furrows were arrow straight and perfectly matched. I could not take him to see them for himself so took many pictures and printed them off for him. Comment was, That looks OK which was high praise indeed.

caterpillar guy · Jul 9, 2022

I started plowing with what was already here to use and the way it was set up. Grandpa had the old 4 bottom Oliver set for onland hitch. It always pulled a bit sideways and nobody ever tried to make it pull straight. It rolled the furrows over well and I never changed it plowed with that plow on the farm for over 50 years. Dad said grandpa bought it new with the D-4 Cat to plow with. Then dad bought a used JD 6 16's plow it pulled straight and well. So never played with adjustment on it either. Big problem with it was the hitch was way to cheesey for the D-6 Cat Broke it several times finally bolted a 4x4 to the bottom of the tongue and solved the problem with that. It would not roll sod over as well as the OLiver plow did though. Would leave some of them up on edge partly. Cover boards didn't help much either. Corn stalks didn't matter much you were just going to work it down to plant sod was a different thing. The 6 bottom was an onland hitch plow. Both plows are trailer plows and still around.

Northvale PA · Jul 9, 2022

This is the last time I plowed a field, about 8 years ago, for alfalfa. I have a JD 3 bottom plow but I know it is not set perfect side to side or front to back. These days I only disc a field to plant since it is hay already. Seems to work just as well with a fraction of the time and work.

grandpa Love · Jul 9, 2022

We do pretty good with the cub!

old-9 · Jul 9, 2022

I haven't used it for some years, but I plow with my 41 9-N and 2-14 Dearborn plow. Some more experienced guys helped get it adjusted correct. I measured the length of the top link and adjustment on right lift arm. Wrote them down where they won't get lost. Simple works for me.

centash · Jul 9, 2022

This Cockshutt plow does a real nice job....our plow day.

Ben

560Dennis · Jul 9, 2022

Nice ! Attention to details there Id say

DoubleR · Jul 9, 2022

I'm 70 years old too and been plowing since I started driving tractor and still can't do a good looking job of plowing. I grew up on mounted 3 bottom Oliver plows and have been using a I-H mounted 3 bottom dropped back to a two bottom for probably at least the last 25 years or so. I only do 5=10 acers a year but didn't even use it this year. I used my small digger then my 7 foot tiller and seem to get better results. My Dad never knew how to set up a plow and I guess he passed that on to me and my hard clay ground probably doesn't help either. I always blamed it on the mounted plow not doing as good of job as the trailer or semi mounted plow. I have learned allot on here over the years regarding setting up my plow.

Unlike some of your people, I would be more then open to suggestions on setting up my plow. I'm always willing to learn.

560Dennis · Jul 9, 2022

Your photos show attention to details ,very important .

Soil 5 miles south of Lake Erie in north east Ohio is a challenge to get the leveling results I see in the photo . Yellow clay you got a window of
A week to plow ,too wet or to dry ,better have the tractor and plows ready beforehand or you are stuck or the tractor is going double fuel consumption pulling it guts out wheel slip, sore back , you guy that have done know what Im saying.

I also watch them plow at the half century of progress , and that soil is hard to enter. Thats where you think you a good plowman till you drop your plows into the furrow and they just skate over the surface. Thats where you find out your plow isnt as set right in front of everyone there are witnesses . I say one and five cant get their plows in the ground . Go and watch !

Use to being very upsetting to me plowing to make a mistake and everyone down the entire road be witnessed to my screw up.
Pride in workmanship Id say .

rustred · Jul 9, 2022

nice! i was about that age also with the W6 and j.d. plow. had charlynn hyd. off the pto. kinda reminds me of my dad too. you had to do a lot of watching and listening.

Eric in IL · Jul 9, 2022

From what I've seen, plowdays are for entertainment purposes. If you take pride in a job well done it's probably best to stay away. Never host one on your farm unless you own a land plane.

rustred · Jul 9, 2022

i also used to ride on the tractor with him when he was plowing . like since about 3 years old. i would watch and watch the furrows flipping. then the young generation says how do you know so much. if you have no interest in something you will learn little. ask me how to play foot ball or basket ball and i cant answer a question. no interest in it.

fastfarmall · Jul 9, 2022

At our plow day, you cant tell one round from the next, there all 14 or 16 inch bottoms, the only thing, the ends get a little jagged,Last year he had some drown out spots, that grew up to solid Kochia,and that pulled hard, made the plows pull sideways, got a little crooked!!!

ss55 · Jul 9, 2022

Maybe some local tractor clubs would be interested in hosting a guest talk or a seminar on how to set a plow.

fastfarmall · Jul 9, 2022

Dennis, have you tried thee Xtra Deep Suck plow shares, for a IHC plow, they have a quite a nose on them,I never had any kind of Ground,that i couldn't penetrate with them on,, the reason the plow skates to the left, it isn't in the ground deep enough, and the added draft,they use them in Red River Valley of the North, which is a old lake bed,that's about as tough as plowing we have, plows over in chunks!

Majorman · Jul 9, 2022

I know what you mean, I spent most of my holidays and evenings when I should have been studying on the seat of a tractor or grinding meal for the pigs and rolling oats and wheat for cattle feed. I was very happy but father put his foot down and would not let me go to work on a farm. I settled for the next best thing which was agricultural engineering and in later life building and designing electronic controls for agricultural machines.

Here is a picture of our field being turned over with a Ransomes three furrow plough.

560Dennis · Jul 9, 2022

No I have not actually . will it work on a sixteen? Please give me some part numbers if so ,I can research .thanks
I pull 3-16 no. 16 plow behind the 560 D .
It has the super chief replacement point design,
Thanks for the reply ,I nice to know what others had to deal with in soils tillage .

Traditional Farmer · Jul 9, 2022

Can't imagine wanting to plow for the fun of it,one job I hated growing up and then the rock picking after plowing.

fastfarmall · Jul 9, 2022

I have got 16in plows but i got 60's and 70's, cant say for sure if they will fit!!! they are a 1 piece share, the number is 463253R2, they are about $31.00 bucks a piece, Good Luck, hope you like them!!!!

fastfarmall · Jul 9, 2022

That's the kind of Land that takes some power!!!!

Gary Reif · Jul 9, 2022

Haven't plowed in years but I'm sure I could still figure it out. Sat on an M Farmall for weeks at a time plowing wheat stubble. Can't imagine taking off on a tractor doing any kind of tillage without looking back. JUst my random thoughts.

rustred · Jul 9, 2022

yikes.

gene bender · Jul 10, 2022

WE also pulled a harrow when you finished a cornfield you didnt see a cornstalk and the ground was level could never see any voids or have a clue it was plowed with 3-14 it never did make sense to me why you would run a tractor and harrow over fresh plowed ground leaving tracks for erosion

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