Leroy

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How many gallons of oil are in a barel of crud?
How many gallons of gas would one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of diesel would that one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of K1 would it make? K1 has been quite a bit higher than gas for quite a while but now for last couple of months station has K1 oticed at 50-60 cents a gallon less than gas on big signboard. Does gas cost more or less to refine than diesel per gallon? What about K1?
 
A standard U.S. barrel contains 42 gallons of crude oil which yields about 44 gallons of petroleum products. The additional 2 gallons of petroleum products come from refiner gains which result in an additional 6% of product
 
(quoted from post at 15:16:20 06/16/22) How many gallons of oil are in a barel of crud?
How many gallons of gas would one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of diesel would that one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of K1 would it make? K1 has been quite a bit higher than gas for quite a while but now for last couple of months station has K1 oticed at 50-60 cents a gallon less than gas on big signboard. Does gas cost more or less to refine than diesel per gallon? What about K1?
hat's an often asked and seldom clearly answered question because that one 42 gallon barrel makes a lot of things, and there is some discretion on what the crude can be used for. Also there is more than one refining process, and different processes yield more gas and less diesel or more diesel and less gas. Here's some reading if you're interested: https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=327&t=9. The last statement I'll make is one I've made before and is not well received: There is very little relationship between the cost of oil and the price of gas.
 
I think roads, shingles, and other such things are going to get really expensive in 4-5 years. Isnt tar basically the left over residue of refining fuel? A waste product, one we have come to depend upon for many procucts.

Will be less and less tar available over time.

How will political opponents be able to tar and feather each other any more, between poultry shortages and no more tar being made?

:)

Paul
 
eia.gov says 60% of the price of gasoline is based on the cost of crude.
Has been for years.

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From eia.gov and others:
''Petroleum refineries in the United States produce about 19 to 20 gallons of motor gasoline and 11 to 12 gallons of ultra-low sulfur distillate fuel oil (most of which is sold as diesel fuel and in several states as heating oil) from one 42-gallon barrel of crude oil''

If that is what the refinery is trying to produce the most of.
Otherwise the entire barrel might be made into hundreds of other products instead.
 
I think gasoline is the most expensive to produce. Once the gas is separated out it still needs some adjustment and additives to be ready to sell.

There are also various grades of crude oil, so some may favor different products.

The other products are somewhat byproducts of the gasoline process.

Some products are subject to more mark up, like K1, paint thinner, various solvents, cosmetics, etc. They are sold on a limited basis, different marketing, lack of competition, many factors determine the final retail price. Some have huge mark ups, so the price of oil has little effect on the final cost.

Here's a breakdown of what comes from a barrel of crude.
Crude Oil Breakdown
 
(quoted from post at 12:16:20 06/16/22) How many gallons of oil are in a barel of crud?
How many gallons of gas would one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of diesel would that one gallon of crude make? How many gallons of K1 would it make? K1 has been quite a bit higher than gas for quite a while but now for last couple of months station has K1 oticed at 50-60 cents a gallon less than gas on big signboard. Does gas cost more or less to refine than diesel per gallon? What about K1?

Light sweet Crude or Heavy Sour Crude ?
 
None of these numbers take into account the energy it requires to "cook" the oil into these products through fractional distillation.

I am having trouble finding out what is used to heat the oil, but I have to assume since there is an abundance of crude oil and distilled fuels available at a refinery, one of those is burned to heat the oil.

Further, knowing what I do about thermodynamics, it would not surprise me if it took up to a barrel of oil's worth of heat to refine a barrel of oil. So in reality you're looking at as much as 84 gallons of crude input to get that 46 gallons of refined product.
 
Good Pic example.
Add 7% sales tax for Indiana.
That's 30% TAXES on gas.
And tell me, who is making record profits???
 
eia.gov says 17% of the price of gasoline is based on the cost of refining crude.

So is the eia.gov fudging the numbers to suit some particular hidden agenda??

Can you provide a source to validate your claim??

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I think you just figured out the high fuel prices....the politicians know they're doing a crappy job, and are afraid they'll get tarred and feathered,lol



Rock
 
I have read articles that say shingles are being successfully made from a mixture of extruded recycled plastics and either sand or stone dust. Also read that ground plastic is being tried in asphalt. Good way to utilize it instead of dumping it in a landfill. Oh, wait, aren't we running out of sand?
 
Not sure about all of that, but I am willing to bet that at most stations, if you took in a 55 gallon drum. It would take 60 gallons as the pump reads to fill it. Do you really know how much your pickup holds!
 
(quoted from post at 21:15:53 06/16/22) Not sure about all of that, but I am willing to bet that at most stations, if you took in a 55 gallon drum. It would take 60 gallons as the pump reads to fill it. Do you really know how much your pickup holds!

Actually I do know how much my pickup holds. 12 years of filling the tank on my last one 1-2 times a week, I could give you down to the 10th of a gallon how much fuel it would take to fill it based on how many miles I'd driven and the position of the needle on the gauge. I was almost always within a 10th no matter where I filled up.

For the pumps around the country to be as out of calibration as you claim, but to be completely in lock-step with each other from my experience filling my truck, seems unlikely. That would make for a grand conspiracy that would be impossible to keep hidden in this day and age of whistle blowers, phones with cameras, and the Internet. Oh I know some tinfoil hat crackpots have supposedly "exposed" the conspiracy on some fly-by-night "news" website. Something like this would make mainstream. Reporters and producers are way too hungry for a meaty story these days to pass up exposing a conspiracy this grand.
 
i was always under the impression that gasoline was (maybe not in pure form) a by product of refining kerosene. Rockerfeller had an abundance of it from his kerosene manufacturing and was lucky once again with the advent of the auto and cars using gas instead of kerosene.
 
I always understood Gasoline was a waste byproduct of refining oil and Kerosene out of oil and was poured back down the old empty wells. The lighter the oil the higher up the cracking tower was what I understood so You would get your heavy oils first then fuels like Diesel fuel which includes some of the Jet fuels and furnace oil then Would be Kerosene and last was Gas. I' sure there are people that could give us a more accurate picture of this with the scale of how it comes out. Some of the products I listed may be out of exact order but was to give an idea of how it is.
 

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