Todays project update

1939farmall · May 23, 2022

At the end of day 1 working on this thing heres where Im at. I got everything freed up and moving again. It took a lot of grease, oil, hammers, and a little heat! The PTO clutch pins were stuck, along with the needle safety catch. After I got it all moving I checked the timing, you guys were right! The plunger - needle timing was way off. How the heck does that happen? Thats where Im stopping for today. Good progress, I hope I can continue on it soon. I still have a lot to do. Knotter timing, check the knives, and I dont know what else. Thanks for the help.

wore out · May 23, 2022

I'm more familiar with GREEN balers than RED ones, but now's the time to check all the chains for wear and probably a good idea to replace any involved in keeping things in time, worn chains can jump teeth and wreak havoc with critical timed components.

charlie n · May 23, 2022

also put a bar on the Toung pivot and raise up on the fly wheel to check the bushing.

1939farmall · May 23, 2022

Charlie n
Adding it to the list. Thank you.

1939farmall · May 23, 2022

Wore out
I looked them over. Sprockets and chains dont seem to worn. They need a lot of lube for sure.
Thanks!

wore out · May 23, 2022

(quoted from post at 17:20:26 05/23/22) Wore out
I looked them over. Sprockets and chains dont seem to worn. They need a lot of lube for sure.
Thanks!

When roller chains aren't being used they dry out and then can get rust inside around the pins and can seem pretty decent 'til they get run and oiled and limbered up.

If the chain moves out and "rides" near the sprocket's "tips" it's a sure sign the chain is worn, making each link a tiny bit "longer".

Not to come across a s a pest, but I can't stress enough to keep good chains on all drives that affect timing.

1939farmall · May 23, 2022

Wore out

Your not coming across as a pest at all. I really appreciate
your insight.

I need to take a second look for sure. I hope the chain is
still available. Luckily this model only has 1 timing chain,
and a safety stop thats supposed to engage the clutch
and or break the shear bolt on the flywheel. But I dont
want to rely on that. If the needles ever get broke I might
as well scrap the machine and look for another one.

Thanks again!

Davidj · May 24, 2022

Aftermarket chain will do. 2040 chain, I think? Have to use the exact number of links to avoid problems. A new knotter drive chain has solved timing issues for me in the past. If it sat for a while, may have to make 10-15 bales to "shine up" the moving parts and get it tying well.

GermantownGreen · May 24, 2022

When I rebuilt one as you are, for a high school project, we had to replace all the blocks etc over in the forks area, and the big bearing in the top arm, above the pickup.
My insides were so rusty I had to grind a shine on it, earlier owner had used preservatives in the hay, and did not clean it up.
Good luck there with your project. GG

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