Broken end on hydraulic hose

How can I remove the broken part on this hydraulic hose?

I broke my hydraulic hose from a disk. Actually, it's the end that's broken

But there's such a small piece left. I can't grab onto it with vice-grips.

Are there any good ways to get this out? How would you suggest that I remove this?

Normally, Plan B would be to drill it out. But I'm concerned that if I drill this out, that it would leave metal shavings in the hose and cause much greater damage in the hydraulic system.

Should I just buy a new hose, since this is broken in the end?
Can anyone suggest where I can buy a hose with this type of end?
It's 5 foot long and 1/4 inch.

Several Farm stores have hydraulic hose like this for $20, but it's the wrong end.
https://www.apache-inc.com/CMS/apache.nsf/Product_Public.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=B7FAC0E699CDC30E86257F2B000BF845
Or can I just get an adapter?

So many questions...
Thank you!

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If you have enough length you just have to cut it off where the rubber goes into it. You can have someone crimp a new fitting onto it but the
hose will be an inch or so shorter.
 
As Stephen Newell suggested.

My local (small town farm oriented) Car
Quest store would be able to crimp on a new
end. Not sure if other Car Quest stores
make up custom hydraulic hoses. But usually
a farm oriented parts store would likely be
able to.
 
That cannot be repaired. It must be replaced. Any implement dealer,and some auto parts stores do hose repair.
 
Those look like swivel ends, they broke in the swivel and are done for.

As the others said.

You should be able to buy hose and adaptors at the farm supply store, often times you only need swivels at one end of the hose not both.

Custom made to match the old hose at the machine shop that has a hose crimp machine is the pretty way to go.

Paul
 
I realize you probably need this fixed as soon as
possible, so my recommendation will not be much
good unless you live near Lincoln NE. The Surplus
Center has very good pricing on hoses and all sorts of
other stuff. Say you have a set of hoses on an
implement cylinder you want to replace as planned
maintenance you can order them from there. The thing
about it is you need to know the size and type of fitting
to order the correct one. Correct me if I am wrong but
is the other pair of hoss in the other picture the
opposite end of the broken hoses? It probably would
have been more helpful to show us the parts the hoses
broken off of. We could have helped you better with
what you needed. Are the broken parts brass or does
the picture just make it look like it is. Brass is rarely
used on hydraulic lines. It can split easily under the
high pressure of hydraulics.
Poke here
 
The metal hose ends cannot be repaired. You should first determine if the hose is long enough now to fit after 3-4 is cut from the overall length. Take it to a shop that does hydraulic hoses. They will look at it and determine if the hose is in good enough condition to have a new end crimped on. Then they may cut the old end off and see if their equipment is compatible with your hose. If they say no, it is because they don't want to be liable or to charge you for something they are not confident will stay together. Then you can decide if you want to try another shop or have them make up a new hose. In any case, be sure to take the broken end with you so they know what size fitting is needed.

Don't try to cut it yourself. An abrasive wheel will do the job, but best to just let the shop do it with their special cutting machine.
 
If the hose is in good enough shape and you have a place to make hoses they can put new ends on your hose if it is long enough to reach. If you do you could get a standard end like pipe thread or such then use an adapter to go from that to match the fitting on your cylinder then if you were to break it again you could just replace the adapter for it. Otherwise a whole new hose is in order to fix it. Surplus Center or Discount Hydraulics or Bailey Sales all will have adapter fittings for this. If you can get the adapter fittings from the same place as the new hose thay can make the ends you want and then put the adapters or fittings on the hose for you.
 
Take the hose and end that is on the cylinder to a place that makes hoses. They can duplicate it. Or as posted, if you say it is long enough to be 3 to 4 inches shorter, they may be willing to crimp/put a new end on it for you. Beware some places will not put new ends on old hoses for liability reasons, so having that done is not a sure thing. The crimp fittings and hose are designed to work together, the construction of different brands of hose and fittings may not conform to crimp/fit properly, and they don't want to be liable if the fitting blows off the hose.

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I have a place in town that makes hoses while you wait.
They said there are SAE, Metric and British threads on hoses so
going to a surplus place is a crap shoot..
My made in the USA terramite has British threads, go figure..
 
I have tried to replace hoses from the farm store using various adapters and such. I have found it
better to just pay the big bucks and just take the old hose to a hydraulic shop and always get the
exact thing with the exact ends on it. Unless its the weekend, which when it normally seems to be
the case and you need it now.
 
I can think of at least 6 places that are within a half hour of me that will make up a new pair of hoses like that while you wait.

Bring your old hoses and ends along for them to match up.

For the price of a 5 foot hose it is not worth messing with trying to reuse the old one, put the new ones on and there is a good chance they will outlast the machine they are needed for.

No idea what is around you but for example around here I can get hoses made up at;

-Local garage
-Equipment dealership
-Machine shop
-Welding shop
-Ag repair shop
-Parts store

If I drive a little further;

-Hydraulic shop
-Industrial supply
-Farm supply store
-Surplus center
-Big truck repair shop
-Equipment fab shop
 
to your question,... that end gets cut off then a new crip on end is cripped on. best is to get another hose made from a hyraulic shop or
dealer that would have the crips and hose.
 
Thank you to used red MN. I was able to find it at that web site. This hose and end looks like it matches

https://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydra...Hose-Assembly-5800-PSI-NRP-Jones-921-2260.axd

One question would be if the threads are the same, but I guess I'll just hope they are.

One more question: What is the correct way to measure the hose? I measured the outside and think it's 1/4 inch.
It's the smaller hose connecting to the 2 wing cylinders on a International 490 disk.

Yes, local places can make a hose, but it costs 2 or 3 times as much as buying a pre-made one, if I can find the right one.

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Guido, that is not what I am seeing, the photos are not the best. Looks crimped on to me; especially if the 2nd photo is the opposite end of the hose. Like I said seeing what the broke off end connected to would have been helpful. Tree-man glad to help out.
 
(quoted from post at 12:53:37 05/21/22) Guido, that is not what I am seeing, the photos are not the best. Looks crimped on to me; especially if the 2nd photo is the opposite end of the hose. Like I said seeing what the broke off end connected to would have been helpful. Tree-man glad to help out.

Reusable fitting can be used in place of crimped ones, its just a different assembly method like replacing bolts with rivets in some applications. One thing that has to be watched with reusable ends is hose compatibility. The fittings are not universal to all brands of hose. Also some require the covering to be skived off and some don't.

JIC (37 degree flare) uses standards for threads and hex sizes. The two charts attached should help one confirm the end fitting sizes on the hose.

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Did that thing that I hate when others do it. Replied
before reading the entire post. Although I was just
trying to keep you from being derailed. Yes I believe
those are JIC, the -6 I am not sure of and you need the
right seat degrees. May have to call S. Center to see if
what you are ordering is correct. In the link is a site
with a chart to determine what you have for fittings. If
you are talking about 1/4 in. hose size I would
personally not put that small of a hose on an
implement connecting the hydraulics to a tractor, I
would go with at least 3/8. Only time I would use
something that small would be for a cylinder under 2
in. in diameter, something that operates a latch or
valve.
Edit to add an FYI: In the future if the physical size of something in the photo you post is helpful, pose a wrench with a size in the photo that fits the part or lay a tape measure by it. Hard to remember, but helpful.
Fitting ID


This post was edited by used red MN on 05/21/2022 at 10:26 am.
 
There is not one single place in my area that will put a new end on your old hose, all say the same thing TOO MUCH LIABILITY, We don't want to get sued!!!
 

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