Jet fuel made from used French fry oil

Geo-TH,In

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Some are afraid of flying.
I'm not, but It scares me to think jet fuel is made from french fry oil.

They claim it is good for the environment.

British Airways looks to recycled cooking oil fuel to cut jet emissions. British Airways has signed a deal for aircraft fuel made from recycled cooking oils and other household waste to be produced at scale in the UK and to be in use as early as 2022 to help power its flights.

Other airlines are doing the same thing.
 
Most jet fuels are just a form of kerosene, plus turbine engines can burn anything that will atomize. Plus have you ever smelled a diesel engine running on cooking oil, smells like french fries.
 
I would thin with the huge amount of fuel a jet aircraft burns that it will be a very low percentage of recycled cooking oil! Might make it smell like French fries at the airport, or chips, as the Brits would say!
 
It only scares you because you don't understand that there is virtually no difference between fuel made from used french fry oil and fuel made from dinosaur squeezins.

They don't just dump the contents of the fry machine into the airplane's tank. It's processed to remove the glycerin (the stuff that would otherwise solidify in the fuel lines), and filtered repeatedly. Look up how biodiesel is made.

Heck I suspect the filtration systems on pickup trucks are exponentially better than anything used on an airplane.
 
George, why would it scare you to think that jet fuel is made from french fry oil? Biodiesel is, diesel fuel made from vegetable oil sources rather than from crude oil. At the end of the day it is diesel fuel, or in this case jet fuel. I don't understand why it would make you scared for jet fuel to be made from a vegetable oil source.
 
And actually DR ..... crude oil is also from an original vegetable source. With a few dinosaurs mixed in for interest, but it's a plant based source of energy.
 
CH, you are correct, crude oil comes from a biological base material, whether that is plant or animal origin, the same as coal and natural gas.
 
Yes DR .... and when you start tracking back, it all started with solar power generated on the surface of the sun. Hmmm, that's an interesting topic for discussion in itself.
 
I don't know where the idea came from that the fuel came from the dinosaurs? It came from a dirty comet that passed by the earth many years ago. Doesn't the bible mention about the rain of napha?
 
The Bible talks about God raining down fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah. Some versions say brimstone and others say sulfur. There are references in the Apocryphal books to raining down naphtha.

I've never heard your story of the idea that crude oil, coal, natural gas, etc, came from a dirty comet though.
 
Considering that crude is made of really old organic matter it's ALL biofuel. My question is how much difference is the amount of carbon released between the classic fossil fuels and recycled bio-products.? gm
 
(quoted from post at 06:43:40 05/11/22) The Bible talks about God raining down fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah. Some versions say brimstone and others say sulfur. There are references in the Apocryphal books to raining down naphtha.

I've never heard your story of the idea that crude oil, coal, natural gas, etc, came from a dirty comet though.

If all this stuff was "rained down" upon the earth, how'd it end up miles beneath the surface? There should be lakes of the stuff on the surface. Or is that all made up like the moon landing?
 
If all this stuff was "rained down" upon the earth, how'd it end up miles beneath the surface? There should be lakes of the stuff on the surface. Or is that all made up like the moon landing?[/quote]

I don't think crude oil cam from a dirty comet. As far as fire and brimstone raining down on the earth, sounds like a volcanic eruption to me.
 
There couldn't be enough used fry oil to get a plane across the channel if you weren't diluting it to a dribble. You could probably add used motor oil also if diluted down enough.
 
Oof, context Barnyard, context...

By "made up" I was talking about the whole story of the oil is found thousands of feet below the surface and is found by drilling.

So apparently there is some great lake of bible oil in a super secret location here on Flat Earth?

This post was edited by BarnyardEngineering on 05/11/2022 at 07:07 am.
 
(quoted from post at 07:01:40 05/11/22) There couldn't be enough used fry oil to get a plane across the channel if you weren't diluting it to a dribble. You could probably add used motor oil also if diluted down enough.

You clearly have no idea how many millions of gallons of fry oil are used in any given year. Even more now as they'll change it more frequently since the used oil has value.

It probably is mixed in in some percentage, B10, B20... but again, it is Jet A fuel, just refined from used vegetable oil.
 
So, I wonder where a jet pulls over at 30K feet to change a plugged fuel filter from veggie oil fuel that wasn't quite ready for prime time?

Can't see the FAA getting behind this, they still allow leaded gasoline. They are way behind on the fuel curve.
 
I use to work for a soy plant that refined soy, canola,sunflower oils for human consumption. Before I came there they had tried reading hemp oil for jet fuel under a g contract. But better start eating more French fries.
 
I think it's just the Grenies trying to say they are doing something to save the world.

And somewhere along the way a giant corporation will get the exclusive contract to supply the oil.

No way there is enough waste fryer oil to make more than a drop in the bucket of fuel consumed in the aviation industry!

As far as it being dirty, think about what is in crude oil coming out of the well! A nasty mix of water, sand, various chemicals... It all gets sorted out and cleaned up, a much bigger task than filtering used cooking oil!
 
Dinosaurs for the most part didnt live under water so crude oil cant come from dinosaurs.

Crude comes from dead plankton and algae settlements under water so they couldnt decompose in the normal way. After millions of years from settlement compaction it turns into oil.

Ever wonder why where ever you find oil you usually find salt
Thats because that oil formed under a salt water sea.
 
(quoted from post at 07:23:17 05/11/22) So, I wonder where a jet pulls over at 30K feet to change a plugged fuel filter from veggie oil fuel that wasn't quite ready for prime time?

Can't see the FAA getting behind this, they still allow leaded gasoline. They are way behind on the fuel curve.


Sprint 6, what do you suppose an oil refinery does with dirty smelly black crude oil, LOL.
 


Why would anyone post something about fryer oil and airplanes on tractor talk instead of tales????
 
(quoted from post at 07:23:17 05/11/22) So, I wonder where a jet pulls over at 30K feet to change a plugged fuel filter from veggie oil fuel that wasn't quite ready for prime time?

Can't see the FAA getting behind this, they still allow leaded gasoline. They are way behind on the fuel curve.

Same place the jet pulls over to change the plugged fuel filter from dinosaur juice Jet-A that wasn't quite ready for prime time.

There are standards that the fuel has to meet. For the umpteenth time, they don't just dip the oil out of the fryer and pour it straight into the airplane's tank. That would be stupid.
 
You are the only one to complain about me posting about bio
diesel.

Diesel fuel is commonly used in tractors and semi's.

If you have a problem with this post Complain to KIM not me..
 
Often times wonder about such things.

In years past, before I discovered that there was a Tractor Tales, I would post music videos, etc., in Tractor Talk. After being attacked a couple of times by a party to remain nameless and told that I was
lying when I responded that I knew nothing of Tales, I discovered Tales and have not posted anything not related to tractors in Talk since.

Doing so has become a peeve of mine.
 
So I guess I'm the only one that sees the history of earth as it was/is. The dinosaurs roamed till the next ice age which froze them and buried them below the escarpments of the Glaciers creating the time and compression along with some decay causing the plants and animals to become extinct while making oil from the process. Thus the reason for animals being as deep as the oil and part of the oil. Also if you look at some of the places oil have been pumped out of for decades they are in some lower laying lands. Not always but some of it is.
 
I have to inform you that your scenario is completely junk. There are no dead dinosaurs 20, 30, 40K feet below the surface. Do a little more research. The conditions and process that happens when the earth produces oil is complex and in some areas regenerative.
 

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