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Destroked 450
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Im not going to said one of these new modern balers wont do it but that a bale every 10.8 seconds
My old HN 268 wont
Destroked 450
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- Harned, Ky
Im not going to said one of these new modern balers wont do it but that a bale every 10.8 seconds
My old HN 268 wont
Probably quite possible. One day last June the sky was looking very threatening and i put 600 on the ground in 2 hours. (and two of us picked them up and got them under cover in 4 hours). A few years back one day i was making double windrows about as fast as I could and my neighbor on his turned up 1066 and heavy NH baler kicked three big wagon loads in, I'm sure, less than an hour. big wagons and I jumped off the rake tractor to unhitch and hitch the wagons for him.
In a word, Yes. But it depends on a lot of things. The small square bales you speak of came about with the advent of the kicker balers. The balers before that baled a larger (longer) bale. For example, the New Holland 77 Hayliner advertised that they could bale 10 bales per minute. It could. However, the windrow had to be big enough and everything running just right and that baler would bale 10 bales per minute. But, wait a minute. Was that free drop or loading on a towed behiond wagon. No way could you bale 10 per minute with a towed behind wagon. No one could stand up to that. Free dropping, 10 bales per minute was the standard to be acheived but that was about the maximum and those bales were considerably bigger than the smaller square kicker bales I think you're talking about. 600 bales per hour. We did it all summer long. Dairy farm, you know.
Back in the sixties My brother and I were baling with the 45 baler. Everything was working perfect and we were putting out 6 bales a minute, for about two loads. Dad sent word out to us to slow down as the bales were not too square and didn't stack to well in the barn. My brother was working the wagon.
Bill in Colo
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If you want to see capacity check out Freeman's new 14x18 self-propelled baler 480 to 500+ is fairly routine.
jd 348 kick baler,probably ten years ago we baled 2400+ bales in an afternoon.i had one of those summer colds bad that day. my man on the baler, me and highschool kid unloading bout 2 loads an hour or more. kid didnt really want to help, so i did most of the unloading, takes about 10 min to unload rest of the time hauling back and forth to field adding twine etc. no breakdowns, everything went smooth as silk.had my sons wedding reception dinner that nite too.people were wondering why i looked so rough that nite. previous baling record was 1600 bales, several times. hay was put in barn via hay elvator, and tube converor across the top of barn and dropped off in mow, no stacking
Bruce from Can.
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We could make around 100 bales in 20 minutes, provided everything was right. Always loaded on a wagon, either stacked by hand or kicked on loose. So we never made 300 per hour because it took time to change wagons.
caterpillar guy
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Never had anybody want to run that hard here if the baler started banging and making noises they would slow down so they didn't break shear pins.
Matt in Oz
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Ok lets put in some variables in and see what we have got. High capacity modern baler doing 93 strokes a minute. I run around 11 strokes a bale so lets go with that. So 93 strokes x 60 min equals 5580 strokes per hour. Now divide by 11 per bale and this gives 507 bales in theory. I use a new holland bale wagon so they are dropped straight on the paddock. Now reality is not going to be this good. Windrows are never perfectly even and turns, changing balls of twine, but possible in theory. With a lot of machine work rates there is field efficiency which I have found to be fairly accurate I am sorry don't know the field efficiency value for a small square baler. I have borrowed the neighbours 93 stroke per minute baler and that thing eats hay.
I can make a wagon load of 110-120 bales in 30 -40 min. in good hay and that is not pushing anything to its full capacity. I run everything slow and pretty easy compared to some people . So I would say yes ,in good heavy hay if bales are dropped on ground and no time lost switching wagons etc .
Ken Macfarlane
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I've done extensive baling with MF 224, MF 228, JD 336, JD348, MF 1840
All of them could do 333 bales an hour, the JD 336 was at a disadvantage as it has less strokes per minute so the bales started to get ragged over about 250.
Our current baler the 1840 runs 300-330 bales an hour into bale baskets including swapping baskets. If I just dump the basket and don't swap it will do 400-440 an hour no trouble, Nice looking bales. 100 strokes a minute.
All of them could do 333 bales an hour, the JD 336 was at a disadvantage as it has less strokes per minute so the bales started to get ragged over about 250.
Our current baler the 1840 runs 300-330 bales an hour into bale baskets including swapping baskets. If I just dump the basket and don't swap it will do 400-440 an hour no trouble, Nice looking bales. 100 strokes a minute.
Roger Tomfohrde
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Our NH 273 could have two in the air(rarely), in nice windrow of 24 foot oat straw, so yes possible if everything was working well. The catch is we found that 1000 bales a day for weeks on end was as much as we wanted to do in a day with all the live stock chores and only two people to haul and stack.
Super H Mike
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Not possible the way I do it ! I am pleased if I get 333 in a day.
495man
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Yes.
Found an old video of me baling with #9 Massey.
9 seconds in total between knotter cycles, more like 8 point something seconds, and that wasn't heavy hay.
I know a #9 isn't fast compared to almost every baler made newer than it.
That's 6 2/3 bales a minute non stop. 6 a minute by 60 minutes is 360 an hour.
This post was edited by 495man on 04/29/2022 at 10:55 am.
Found an old video of me baling with #9 Massey.
9 seconds in total between knotter cycles, more like 8 point something seconds, and that wasn't heavy hay.
I know a #9 isn't fast compared to almost every baler made newer than it.
That's 6 2/3 bales a minute non stop. 6 a minute by 60 minutes is 360 an hour.
This post was edited by 495man on 04/29/2022 at 10:55 am.
Gone are the days when 60 strokes a minute resulted in a smooth running baler whereas when you bumped them up to the 75 the co. rated them at sounded like things were ready to fly apart, plus a whole lot more complaints of various problems.
Of course, the guy who only wanted to run about 40 strokes could not get good knot and bales either.
Of course, the guy who only wanted to run about 40 strokes could not get good knot and bales either.
I have been around a lot of balers,,they have both aggravated me and intrigued me,,they are marvels when they are doing their job. Some old farmers poke along at half throttle and get the hay made, but it seems that the balers preform better when running up at or near PTO rated speed. The newer balers have larger more aggressive pick ups and feeder designs,,and faster plunger speeds to deal with the higher intake volume...the knotters have changed very little over the years,,and they need to be in tune to deal with these high numbers of bales per minute.. yes they are Mechanical Marvels,,,have any of you guys ever read the history of how the first knotter came to be ?? It is an interesting story... I am putting a baler set up together this summer for the next Rantual show,,it will be a very interesting display...
I heard they put the original inventor of knotters in the nut house. Anyway, yes, worked on them for many years as no one else wanted to learn anything about them but they were all the IH double diameter knot, not the what we called Deering knotters everyone else used.
I turned enough of them by hand to bale a few loads while checked each faze of the tying cycle. I don't miss them. OH, threw a few bales also as it seemed when someone was having trouble , he had to drive the tractor and no one else around.
I turned enough of them by hand to bale a few loads while checked each faze of the tying cycle. I don't miss them. OH, threw a few bales also as it seemed when someone was having trouble , he had to drive the tractor and no one else around.
buickanddeere
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Some of the horse hay buyers complain about fast bailed hay having fewer but thicker slices per bale .
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