168683 Carb for IH434 1967

Jason Hill

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I'm looking for help setting up this carb on my tractor. Currently it floods the engine out with any throttle advance. It does idle a little rich but it idles. I was told the float is not set correctly as there is no mixture screw only an idle screw. Does anyone have a starting point to set the float or do I just trial and error it? Thanks

This post was edited by Jason Hill on 04/24/2022 at 01:51 pm.
 
when u have no spec to follow you set the float like this. turn top half of carb upside down and eye the float. i must be sitting level.
bend arms to adjust if thats what it takes. if u are a couple of 1/32's off you will not know the difference of cause a problem. also what is
the main jet set at? have you had this carb apart already or what is the deal here?
 
True flooding, when the needle valve fails to close off the fuel and the bowl
overflows, can be caused by the float level set too high, the float is
partially sunk, the needle valve is bad, the seat is loose, or trash is
holding the valve open.

Trash in the needle valve is the most common cause. Sometimes you can flush
it out by closing the fuel valve and running the carb dry. But is the tank is
trashy or flaking rust, it will be an ongoing problem.

That it will idle indicates it may be high float level, or the wrong main
jet, or the main jet has fallen out or loose. Usually flooding means it will
continually drip gas with the engine off, or it will load up and die at idle,
but clear up and run somewhat normal when under load and up to speed.

I would open it up, take a look around. Did it get this way on it's own or
was it worked on? Sometimes kits come with new jets. If the size was not
compared, it may have a jet for an adjustable main, which would make it way
too big. You can usually find the specs online by looking up the carb make
and number.

Also make sure the choke is opening fully and the air cleaner is flowing
freely. Oil bath air cleaners have a wire mesh inside that needs occasional
cleaning, often overlooked. Also check for bird, rodent, insect nests.
 
(quoted from post at 09:31:37 04/23/22) True flooding, when the needle valve fails to close off the fuel and the bowl
overflows, can be caused by the float level set too high, the float is
partially sunk, the needle valve is bad, the seat is loose, or trash is
holding the valve open.

Trash in the needle valve is the most common cause. Sometimes you can flush
it out by closing the fuel valve and running the carb dry. But is the tank is
trashy or flaking rust, it will be an ongoing problem.

That it will idle indicates it may be high float level, or the wrong main
jet, or the main jet has fallen out or loose. Usually flooding means it will
continually drip gas with the engine off, or it will load up and die at idle,
but clear up and run somewhat normal when under load and up to speed.

I would open it up, take a look around. Did it get this way on it's own or
was it worked on? Sometimes kits come with new jets. If the size was not
compared, it may have a jet for an adjustable main, which would make it way
too big. You can usually find the specs online by looking up the carb make
and number.

Also make sure the choke is opening fully and the air cleaner is flowing
freely. Oil bath air cleaners have a wire mesh inside that needs occasional
cleaning, often overlooked. Also check for bird, rodent, insect nests.

Ya this is a brand new carb from Yesterday's Tractors. The jet is not adjustable and has a 27stamped on it. The tractor is not moving it is just sitting in the garage and when I give it throttle is floods and dies. I asked if it was the right jet be the supplier doesn't know. What height should the fuel be in the bowl? The engine gets so much fuel that the idle adjustment does nothing
 

The carb is new. The jet has a 27 stamped on it. The engine is getting so much fuel that the idle screw does nothing. when I increase the throttle is floods out. Do you know the height of fuel in the float bowl measurement?
 
have you opened it up and looked at the float as i said?? that is pretty much all u need to know if it sitting level as what float level
means. i dont think its your float. i would say the needle is not seating. post a picture of the float sitting on the needle with top upside
down. you got to start checking stuff before wondering what the setting is. its will be plain to see it its out of wack. i have done piles of
carbs without physically measuring the float. level is level. so as i said post the picture and then i will say yes or no as the float
problem, and dont have to type out a thousand words.
 
(quoted from post at 12:06:24 04/23/22) have you opened it up and looked at the float as i said?? that is pretty much all u need to know if it sitting level as what float level
means. i dont think its your float. i would say the needle is not seating. post a picture of the float sitting on the needle with top upside
down. you got to start checking stuff before wondering what the setting is. its will be plain to see it its out of wack. i have done piles of
carbs without physically measuring the float. level is level. so as i said post the picture and then i will say yes or no as the float
problem, and dont have to type out a thousand words.

we had it open and looked for anything obvious but it looked fine. We will open it again and take a picture and post it. It might be a day or two. Thanks
 
Do you still have the old carb?

You could look and see what size jet it had.

As for setting the idle mixture, the engine needs to be idled down to around
400-450 RPM for the mixture screw to have any effect.

Also check the compression, valve lash, plugs, spark quality, and the points
gap. Weak ignition will look like fuel problems. The carb can only work as well
as the rest of the engine will let it.
 
If you hooked up the carb without cleaning the rest
of the fuel system, the high velocity of the fuel filling
an empty bowl can flush debris lurking in quiet
corners of the fuel system into the carburetor. Need
to turn the engine a few revolutions and let it squirt
fuel into a can. Banjo bolts are garbage traps. Is
the filter still in the fuel pump?
 
(quoted from post at 15:33:01 04/23/22) Do you still have the old carb?

You could look and see what size jet it had.

As for setting the idle mixture, the engine needs to be idled down to around
400-450 RPM for the mixture screw to have any effect.

Also check the compression, valve lash, plugs, spark quality, and the points
gap. Weak ignition will look like fuel problems. The carb can only work as well
as the rest of the engine will let it.

points and distributor are rebuilt with what new parts I can get. Spart is strong and blue on the spark tester. Plugs and wires are new. point gap is .014" on new points. Valve lash and compression will be added to the list to check.
 

we will check the jet size on the old carb. The old carb had a accelerator pump the new one doesn't. I don't know if that would affect the size of the jet.
 

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