Destroyed my rear tire, where to get new one and tips

rockwind1 · Mar 30, 2022

My old Ford 850 has 13.6-28 r-1 rear tires. They were great tires but I just had an expensive accident. Anyways I have to replace the tire and the tube.

Video of damage

https://youtu.be/LxY0AzZYyg4

First question where to get a new tire and tube, what brand to get, I have never bought a tractor tire and tube

Second question due to the size and the inner wheel weights I am going to try and remove and replace the tire and tube with the rim still on the tractor, I used my backhoe to lift it up and Ive got it blocked up. Ive been watching a bunch of YouTube videos. But I was hoping someone on here maybe knew the best video to watch out of the thousands

Any tips or info are very welcome

Thanks

This post was edited by rockwind1 on 04/01/2022 at 07:29 am.

SVcummins · Mar 31, 2022

As long as you are not using it for heavy tillage there are
several ok tires that you can buy . I have used alliance and
crop max . I have a set of Samson radials that I havent put
on yet . If you can find an American tube they are thicker .
The tire man I use puts the chins tubes in And I havent had a
problem with the cheaper tubs

showcrop · Mar 31, 2022

It is a lot easier to dismount - mount with it on the tractor. The simple reason is that when you need to pull the bead over the rim, you need to have the tire in the deep center of the rim. Laying on the floor it is tricky. On the tractor gravity does it for you.

caterpillar guy · Mar 31, 2022

When using the backhoe to push the bead off on a light tractor like that be careful you don't push the tractor off the block too. The backside might need the 3pt linkage dropped to the ground to have room to get in there to break the back bead. Once broke down you will want a couple good bars about 3 feet long. Don't waste time with cheap bars. Ken-tool will work with satisfaction.

Geo-TH,In · Mar 31, 2022

Shop for a local tire store that works on
all tires, cars, tractors, semi tires.
I have to drive 35 miles to the Sullivan
tire. I load the tire in my truck and they
do everything else.
I have to roll this tire up mower ramp to
get it in The truck. Bigger tires I have
to use a loader.

I'm so old , arthritis, and weak, I had a
battle getting the wheel back on.

Finally I used a crowbar and 2x4 to lift
tire and roll it enough to get it in
place.

I would recommend you find a good local
tire company that is reasonably.

No way can I even think of replacing a
tire that size.

grandpa Love · Mar 31, 2022

Local tire shops can order tires.....
Or Facebook marketplace sometimes has
good used ones. Tire shop near has a
used tire that size for sale. It's in
Alabama....... Dawn dish soap helps the
new tire go on. Baby powder keeps new
tube from pinching. We do our own
tires. Ain't terrible

paul · Mar 31, 2022

So, a person kind of wants a matched set of tires on an axle. Different brands are slightly different heights, and different traction.

If your other tire is in great shape I would try to match the brand.

If your other tire is wore down, or badly weather checked. Then you have some thinking to do. Sure would be best to replace both sides. Then you can shop for brands
and get a matching set of any brand. Or, you can look for a used tire that is about as wore out as your other side.

Firestone is one of the better brands. But they have an economy line too now.

Lot of off brand tires out there, from China.

Goodyear has some problems with the sidewalks cracking out, but are still a good tire on a smaller tractor, just not quite a premium any more.

Alliance, Carslile, BKT, are some middle of the road brands.

I know you will want cheap, and tires are extremely expensive and hard to find these days. You just have to think about the future, what you want for traction and
durability.

Be careful with the real spcheap deals out there. You might get what you pay for in a tire......

Paul

Bob N.Y. · Mar 31, 2022

A tractor of that horsepower would be better off with 14.9x28 tires.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 31, 2022

Find a local tire dealer that handles tractor tires. Shop around. The right one can recommend a brand based on your needs and budget, and they'll usually do better than online because freight usually kills the online deals. They buy by the truckload, which is less expensive than LTL freight.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 31, 2022

Oh and on size close enough is close enough. Unlike a car it doesn't have to be a perfect match because of the slow speeds that the differential is turning. On a car you really need to keep the tires matched up because the differential is whipping around at breakneck speed, and the spider gears aren't designed for that when the tires are turning at two different speeds.

mudcreek183 · Mar 31, 2022

Where is the damage if it on the tread part of the tire, if there a boot can be put in and a new tube.I had several done and have lasted for years.

Davidj · Mar 31, 2022

I used to get the local tire guy to come out in the service truck. Since I got a backhoe, I take them off, load them in the truck and let the pros do it at the shop. Spent an afternoon helping a buddy change a tractor rear years ago when we were young and broke. didn't have the proper irons of course. Learned my lesson...haha

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 05:00:56 03/31/22) Shop for a local tire store that works on
all tires, cars, tractors, semi tires.
I have to drive 35 miles to the Sullivan
tire. I load the tire in my truck and they
do everything else.
I have to roll this tire up mower ramp to
get it in The truck. Bigger tires I have
to use a loader.

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I'm so old , arthritis, and weak, I had a
battle getting the wheel back on.

Finally I used a crowbar and 2x4 to lift
tire and roll it enough to get it in
place.

I would recommend you find a good local
tire company that is reasonably.

No way can I even think of replacing a
tire that size.

I very much sympathize, my back is killing me, It sounds like youre a bit worse off than me though Im sorry to hear that. My back usually feels OK but whenever I do some hard work or I have to bend over then it starts acting up.Im seriously thinking about doing something like that but the tires have these huge wheel weights on the inside of them, Ill definitely have to use the loader bucket of my backhoe I think

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

Thanks, but while the other tire is still inflated it also got damaged in the incident, damaged enough that I think I should replace it, Ill probably just go middle of the road tire wise. Im gonna try and post some pics later on

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

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This post was edited by rockwind1 on 03/31/2022 at 08:16 am.

rustred · Mar 31, 2022

the only time the spider gears are whipping around at breakneck speed is when one wheel is not moving. being stuck in the mud for example.
and you have the accelerator to the floor. other than that not going to damage anything as that is what spider gears are for. with one tire a
different size the spiders are turning slowly in the cage to compensate for the tire difference. and what about these wheel barrow tires they
use as spares, but i see its pretty much used on the front drive models.

RobCons · Mar 31, 2022

I have a ford 4 cylinder 4000 with that size tire. It has Galaxy Earthpro 45 tires about 3 years old and they have served my purpose well.

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 06:25:27 03/31/22) Where is the damage if it on the tread part of the tire, if there a boot can be put in and a new tube.I had several done and have lasted for years.

I am going to try and post a picture or a video of the damage but I think its pretty bad

Ultradog MN · Mar 31, 2022

I'm only 68 so can't see paying someone to
do what I can easily do myself.
As soon as it warms up so the rubber ain't
so stiff I will pull the old ones off and
put the new ones on. These are 14.9-30s

Ohio88 · Mar 31, 2022

Years ago I bought a bead breaker, now I change all the rear tires on the tractor. In one case I had the rim and not the tractor. Jacked up another tractor.
Removed the rim and tire, mounted the rim and tire. For me it is just easier on the tractor. Old tires that are hard are harder but still doable. Good luck.

BarnyardEngineering · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 08:03:01 03/31/22) the only time the spider gears are whipping around at breakneck speed is when one wheel is not moving. being stuck in the mud for example.
and you have the accelerator to the floor. other than that not going to damage anything as that is what spider gears are for. with one tire a
different size the spiders are turning slowly in the cage to compensate for the tire difference. and what about these wheel barrow tires they
use as spares, but i see its pretty much used on the front drive models.

The wheel barrow tires they use as spares are the same outer diameter as the stock tire. They are neither meant to be used long term, nor will they last long term.

Spider gears are meant to get you around a corner without chirping tires. That's all. They're not meant to compensate for running two different size tires, and simply will not hold up to that abuse in a vehicle traveling highway speed long term.

super99 · Mar 31, 2022

I'm 70 years old and have been changing and fixing my own rear tires for 50 years. I did one 14.9x28 off of the tractor, all the rest were on the tractor. If you brought me a tractor tire off of the tractor to change, I would refuse to do it or else charge you an extra $100.
Talk to a good farm tire man, depends how bad the tire is, you can send it off and have it sectioned and it will be usable.

RedGreenGuy · Mar 31, 2022

Searched net for area salvage yards and found brand new set 16.9 x 24 for less than half price. Had to drive 100 miles but saved a few dollars. They are at local tire shop for mounting. I have done it, but almost 80 and not the horse I used to be.

SVcummins · Mar 31, 2022

Those old ones would be awesome dulals . I have 5 year old alliance that are cracked worse than that

Alvin 41 · Mar 31, 2022

With the tractor solidly jacked up,I would use a 15" iron and 2# hammer to break the bead and two 30" irons to get the tire off. Pretty easy on smaller 6 ply tires. Getting the tube installed and the tire beads seated is a little more difficult. Being able to raise and lower jack can help.

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 09:42:31 03/31/22) Years ago I bought a bead breaker, now I change all the rear tires on the tractor. In one case I had the rim and not the tractor. Jacked up another tractor.
Removed the rim and tire, mounted the rim and tire. For me it is just easier on the tractor. Old tires that are hard are harder but still doable. Good luck.

I was going to try it with the rim still on the tractor, how high do you jack it off the ground? Right now I can turn the tire and I just barely brushes the ground

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 19:14:55 03/31/22) With the tractor solidly jacked up,I would use a 15" iron and 2# hammer to break the bead and two 30" irons to get the tire off. Pretty easy on smaller 6 ply tires. Getting the tube installed and the tire beads seated is a little more difficult. Being able to raise and lower jack can help.

Can you describe the advantage of why being able to raise and lower the jack helps? Bear in mind I have never done this before

rockwind1 · Mar 31, 2022

(quoted from post at 06:25:27 03/31/22) Where is the damage if it on the tread part of the tire, if there a boot can be put in and a new tube.I had several done and have lasted for years.

Here is a YouTube video of the damage and the incident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxY0AzZYyg4

This post was edited by rockwind1 on 04/01/2022 at 07:28 am.

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