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Trailer type breaking plow

crsutton81

crsutton81

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Oldest son is now wanting to find a trailer type breaking plow to use with the Farmall 300. I know it would handle a 2-14 bottom easy and possibly a 3-14 bottom. Need a little schooling on these as everything that I can remember was a fully mounted plow before they all got parked too. I realize a model that had replaceable parts on the bottoms is more desirable. What would be a better size and make to try to seek for this situation ? This tractor does not have a fast hitch and also has a lightweight 3pt which is why interested in a trailer type.
 



Sounds like you should be looking for a "Little Wonder" or "Little Genius". Bothe were built by IH.
 
Shoot, I must have gone near your place. I think it was near Staunton that I left rt 81 and headed east towards Lusby, Maryland. I was on a road for a while that was all fancy horse farms.
 
I remember many of the local farmers using Oliver trailer plows when I was young. They were a favorite in this area. One neighbor used one and his H Farmall often until his passing in the late 1990s. His H resides here now. I find it a bit odd since there were very few Oliver tractors in these parts.
 
Genius is a lot better plow than wonder. Wonder is a light duty built for like the F12 tractors.
 
The problem with a Little Genius is that NONE of them came from the factory with a modern plow bottom that you can still get widely-available replacement parts for. They can be converted by using a complete bottom assembly off of a modern plow. Bolt holes line right up. Costs money though, well more than the plow is worth or will ever be worth.

If you want to keep it red, go with an IH #60 plow. These are much less common than Little Genius, as by the time they came out most were plowing with 4-5-6 bottom semi-mounted plows and much larger tractors. They do use wear parts that you can still get at your CaseIH dealer.

Another option is an Oliver plow. Nobody will fault you for pulling that color green.
 
I spent a lot of hours of my youth on an IHC 300 with an Oliver 2-16 trip plow behind it.

Id expect a hydraulic lift version would be preferred.

Oliver was the best made plow in the era and there was several very good Oliver dealers around here, you saw green Oliver plows behind most any color tractor here. Brand loyalty only goes so far......

Paul
 
In our part of the world a Case plow was the plow of choice. A Case plow would bury a six foot tall sweet clover crop being used as green manure without leaving anything above the ground. Most others had to use a #9 wire pulled in front of the bottom to lay the sweet clover down to get it covered. We used a 2-16 behind an H Farmall without any problem. A 300 should pull a 2-16 or a 3-14 with no problem. Find a descent Case w/throw away lays and you won't be disappointed IMHO.
 
International 642 16 inch bottoms .
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Thanks everyone for the replies. This will give us an idea what to look for. I really think it'd do good with a 3 bottom 14inch plow. SV, I know it would only dream of handling that 642 you have. It'd take more than 1 double cheeseburger at dinner time with me sitting on the front-end to hold it down. Lol. It looks like it's doing a good job tho.
 
I have really tough plowing soils. Really tough.

The 300 would not handle a 3-16 plow. It handled the 2-16 good.

The experts say a 3-14 pulls easier than a 2-16. I will disagree with that. And just leave it at that.

A 14 inch bottom is 2 inches less clearance between bottoms, will plug up a little easier. That may or may not be a problem for whatever you are doing.

Dad had a 3-16 on the Oliver 88 tractor. It matched up well, but in old alfalfa they had 2 tractors pulling.

Again, my dirt is very tough pulling, so I would expect most folk to do better than we could.

Paul
 
A lot of where this plow would be used at has is a sandy loam type soil. As far as the plow plugging, most of it would have already been disked once or worse case scenario it would be used in soybean stubble.
 
Size of bottom depends on how deep you are wanting to plow.I prefered a 12 bottom and plowed only 6 deep in my clay soil. 12inch designed to work at 6 inches deep, 14 inch at 7 inches deep ans 16 inch at 8 inches deep. A 12 inch bottom would equal a slab of 72 square inches being turned, a 14 inch would equal a slab of 98 inches and a 16 inch would equal the slab of 128 in or 30 inches more dirt turned over with each furrow so the larger the bottom the harder it should pull. A 3-14 has a slab of 294 inches of dirt being turned while a 2-16 would have a slab of dirt of 256 inches being turned over so the 2-16 should pull easier than a 3-14 but then as you go deeper the ground gets harder so that would equal the pull out so both should pull about equal. What would make a big difference is the angle of the moldboard as the longer the angle the easier it would pull as doesn't take as much force to turn slab over. In my ground I thought a 14 in turned over too much of the clay subsoil. I started plowing back in either 1955 or 1956.
 

I use a John Deere #52, 2-14" plow behind my 300 and it does an excellent job. I'd go so far to say it plows the "prettiest" of any plow I've ever used. Only problem is finding points, but I blacksmithed new ones on two years ago and they're doing fine. My plow is clutch lift and on steel wheels, but they can be had on rubber. I've had the plow for several years, bought for $50 at a neighbor's sale. I would not take 10 times that for it, even though shares and moldboards are difficult to find.

On the other hand, we always thought Oliver plows pulled easier than others in the area. Dad had an old 3-14" we used behind the Super M and it had no problem pulling it in our ground. We later had an IH 3-14" with Super Chief bottoms that pulled a little harder, but seemed to do a better job of covering trash.

Mac
 
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