New Tractor - Mahindra 1635 SST vs. Kioti CK3510SE

nrowles

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I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get the info I want from this thread as far as being able to compare or not but these are the 2 tractors I'm currently deciding between. I'm not considering any other makes. I have these 2 dealers close to home and they are good dealers. Without negotiating price, the Kioti is $770 cheaper which is not really an issue. I want the better tractor.

Both are shuttle shift.

Engine horsepower is comparable but the pto horsepower seems to hold up better with Kioti from what I'm seeing in the specs.

I'm not familiar with this but Mahindra doesn't have the DEF/DPF which is supposedly a big plus.

I'm likely going to try and negotiate the Mahindra down closer to the Kioti since I'm also buying a couple implements. Any thoughts on comparing these 2 models? I'm sure many of you are partial to one or the other based on using them but I'm looking for anyone that may know each tractor and/or the specs and why one might choose one over the other. If I was going today I'd be buying the Mahindra.
 
I suppose the question could also relate to comparing brands in general.....Mahindra vs Kioti. Is one built better than the other? Does one offer more than the other in comparable models?
 
There are all kinds of comparisons if you do a Google search, specific models or general comparisons, or individual model ratings, etc. And discussion forums too like the one you have started here at other sites. Have you looked at any of those? Here's an example below of a comparison of two models, not necessarily the ones you are dealing on but you'll get the idea. Research, research and then more research, what more can a guy do?
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(quoted from post at 08:02:45 02/21/22) There are all kinds of comparisons if you do a Google search, specific models or general comparisons, or individual model ratings, etc. And discussion forums too like the one you have started here at other sites. Have you looked at any of those? Here's an example below of a comparison of two models, not necessarily the ones you are dealing on but you'll get the idea. Research, research and then more research, what more can a guy do?
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yes, I did do some searching. Also wanted to get input from members of the forum I'm part of......so that's part of my research.
 
thoughts.... rated hp at what pto speed? Not a fan of 2200 rpms for rated 540 pto vrs 1800rpms for pto for a long life engine. And not a fan of dpf/pf due to problems down the road. The heavier tractor will out work the lighter tractor two to one, although requiring a heavier trailer and maybe tow vehicle. you will need at least 6 lug axles instead of 5 lug on a dual axle trailer. So are you buying a garden tractor or a work tractor? Mahindra sells more tractors worldwide than others although that is not the best reason to buy a tractor, but you have a better chance of getting parts 10 years from now. Again, random thoughts to throw into the bowl. best of luck either way.
 
Just did a quick glance on Tractordata, the Mahindra is from 300-500# heavier. Much of the Mahindra design is old school, when in doubt make it stout. That doesn't
translate into better or longer lasting, but it may mean you don't need to load the tires, depending on what your planned uses are.
 
(quoted from post at 07:20:42 02/21/22) I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get the info I want from this thread as far as being able to compare or not but these are the 2 tractors I'm currently deciding between. I'm not considering any other makes. I have these 2 dealers close to home and they are good dealers. Without negotiating price, the Kioti is $770 cheaper which is not really an issue. I want the better tractor.

Both are shuttle shift.

Engine horsepower is comparable but the pto horsepower seems to hold up better with Kioti from what I'm seeing in the specs.

I'm not familiar with this but Mahindra doesn't have the DEF/DPF which is supposedly a big plus.

I'm likely going to try and negotiate the Mahindra down closer to the Kioti since I'm also buying a couple implements. Any thoughts on comparing these 2 models? I'm sure many of you are partial to one or the other based on using them but I'm looking for anyone that may know each tractor and/or the specs and why one might choose one over the other. If I was going today I'd be buying the Mahindra.

My vote is for the Mahindra. If I understand correctly, the Mahindras are built in what used to be an International Harvester factory and use some of the same technology and design. I have visually inspected only one Mahindra, and I was favorably impressed.
 

You're only looking at one tractor. Anything with DPF/DEF is not an option. If your research reveals the Mahindra has issues, look for something else. Life ain't easy.
 
You are going to buy a shuttle shift. Buy the one with the biggest clutch in it. Hopefully, it is
the one that is easiest to replace also.
 
Sit on each one to see how you fit. Never been on a Kioti but have sit on a couple of Mahindras and they are small for me. I'm 6' 4" and my knees hit the shuttle shift on the steering wheel. Cab I was in I kept hitting my head.
 
Isnt Mahindra related to the former Belarus tractors?

Kioti seems to come and go, kinda worried about long term support and value.

Mahindra is making a big push to make a nitche in the USA marketplace. Who knows if that lasts.


Paul
 
I agree with mjs---. You need to crawl on each and drive around dealer lot. Go forward, go backwards. Is there room for your legs and feet when you turn around to backup? You should be able to tell pretty
quick that you like operating this one much better then that one.
On my Cat 35 when I reposition myself on the seat, my right hip pushes the air adjustment button and lets the air out. Sure if you sit straight in the middle of the seat everything is fine but who doesn't
move around after 2-3 hours in the field.
 
MTZ. Thats what Belarus turned into.

Im really bad at associating proper nouns/ names with only the first letter.

Thanks for the link on Mahindra history.

Paul
 
I would run and, run fast on both. I'd find an older tractor with features you want. Will be a longer lasting program and non of the stupid stuff like def and junk. Yup you might have some fixing and when you're done it will out last these new ones.
 
Thanks for all the input. I'm going to test out the Mahindra tomorrow at the dealer and if it fits good that's the one I'm going with.

Caterpillar Guy ..... I can certainly understand your viewpoint but I'm going to go new. Going with the Mahindra avoids all the DEF so at least that's a plus. Hopefully it works out.
 
(quoted from post at 10:57:11 02/22/22) Thanks for all the input. I'm going to test out the Mahindra tomorrow at the dealer and if it fits good that's the one I'm going with.

Caterpillar Guy ..... I can certainly understand your viewpoint but I'm going to go new. Going with the Mahindra avoids all the DEF so at least that's a plus. Hopefully it works out.

Good for you! Never buy anything used unless you are on your last dime or you collect antiques. Mahindra has a good reputation among folks who are not stuck on Americanized names.
 
I have 2 Mahindras ,we use them everyday around the farm never had any major problems with either. I have notice several of the nursery around here are using them more the the red or green ones.
 
Don't think I ever saw one of either make and definatly no dealers that I ever heard of.
 

I think the big plus for the Kioti are they make their own tractors. Several of the Mahindra models are manufactured by someone other than Mahindra. That makes part supportability a potential problem down the road. The new Bobcat tractors are built by Kioti.

The plus for the Mahindra is the DOC system (if they are still using DOC) and it can be deleted down the road vs repairing it. The downside to DOC systems is they burn all the time and it uses more fuel and in extreme cold, they cant get hot enough and can plug up and have to be removed.
 
I don't have either and never had an aspiration to own one. What I have seen of Mahindra is that they seem to be rugged, old school
in weight, convenience and technology. Kioti comes recommended everywhere I read an owner's comments.

If nothing else is a show stopper, the DEF would be. I'd dodge it like an oncoming locomotive if possible, based on owner's reports
and this morning's TT has comments on the subject to that effect.

Of my current 4 tractors of 25 to 65 HP, from a '65 Ford 3000D to a 2020 LS MT225s, I currently don't own a DEF tractor and hope I
never have to.
 

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