Odd IH

grandpa Love · Feb 11, 2022

It runs and drives. Transmission has 2
levers, one is forward and reverse, it
moves. Other is stuck in 3. And ideas?
Levers are beside left arm, and
disappear under the seat.

Tony in SD · Feb 11, 2022

My guess is an IH industrial. Maybe a 3444. Most likely a shuttle clutch which is handy for a loader

crsutton81 · Feb 11, 2022

If you haven't already, remove the sheet metal cover between the front of the seat and the beginning of the dash console. This is where 1 through 4th gear linkages connect up. There should be 2 different connections. One is for gear 1 and 2. The other for 3 and 4. I have had a joint come aloose. Be sure both levers are working and connected.

jm. · Feb 11, 2022

I think if you will look back at my original post I told you the shifting was the demise of those tractors. Almost all failed sooner or later and most times sooner. Tried to call you tonight but will talk latter.

formerly ny bill · Feb 11, 2022

now that he mentions it, my 784, also British made, also has shift linkage under the tunnel. I lost 2 gears, as it turned out, from using the tunnel as a step and crunching it down onto the linkage. crsutton may be onto something.

used red MN · Feb 11, 2022

Possibly sections 07-31 and 07-35 will help. If those are not the right ones you will have to poke around.
CNHI IH 2400 parts diagrams

NY 986 · Feb 12, 2022

Definitely industrial and nothing really odd about it to imply it is some sort of freak. The dealer in Geneva years ago was fairly successful selling IH industrial as long as he had that franchise. I remember seeing tractors like that around with some sporting loaders and backhoes. At the same time he must have not been successful enough as there was no industrial equipment there by 1980. I'm thinking for the parts and service requirements he was not getting enough business after a certain point in time to cover his required investment. Also possible that the regional IH industrial dealer Dow obtained exclusive rights for IH in this area. Was not much after that IH sold off the industrial division but this dealer not having IH industrial seemed like it proceeded that by a few years. As a general topic dealers having both ag and industrial under one roof was fairly rare at least in NY. There was one JD dealer in Ithaca which did that and a few Ford dealers but that was it as far as I could see. Maybe somebody knows different.

Tim in New York · Feb 12, 2022

I would guess 2444? Looks similar to my 2424, but the fenders for sure are different. Should be a tag somewhere around the fuel tank, can't remember which side. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/search?Category=1110&Model=444&Manufacturer=INTERNATIONAL

Tim

grandpa Love · Feb 12, 2022

Tag

Jim in NC · Feb 12, 2022

I have one of its larger cousins, a 574. I think CR's suggestion is a good one. I have read that owners have complained about the shifting linkage, but thankfully no problems for me. A brother got rid of a nice low hour 495 because he did not like the way the shifters worked. My suggestion for anyone that has an IH tractor with this shifting linkage is to not make it a habit to rush changing gears. Give the gears some time to synchronize. It reminds me of a school bus I drove when in high school.

crsutton81 · Feb 12, 2022

I agree Jim. We've had or still have 8 of this era series tractors and they work fine as long as you are thorough and slow shifting them. You've got to feel the pop of the gear change before moving to the next one. Thankfully I've never had a problem except for the 674 that was in a car wreck that I found out after buying it. Uuuggghhh.

crsutton81 · Feb 12, 2022

I've had more go wrong in that tunnel area than necessary. It can be anything from a rubbed brake line or fuel line to the linkages getting knocked off the arms. And it all starts from standing on the tunnel cover from mounting and dismounting the seat...

JimB2 · Feb 12, 2022

Grandpa Love,
I don't know if you saw my post a week ago about the downloads for the Operator's and Service manuals for the IH Doncaster, UK, built tractors, see link below.
Your tractor is definitely an IH 2400 which is the Industrial version of the AG 454/464.

Re Gear shift levers, the left lever is Range Transmission lever should be REV to rear/High Range in slot half way down/ Low Range all the way down.
The other Lever with the Z pattern goes to the Speed Transmission and is gears 1 thru 4.
As other posters have said remove the cover on top of transmission in the step through and check the shift mechanism.
See attached photo of Speed Transmission connections, from the IH Service Manual Section Group 7 Page 34.
Also if the tractor has been sitting outside for a length of time, the shift lever can rust to the pivot shaft.
DO NOT FORCE or you could break a shift fork or sometime in the transmission.

454 2400 OPs Service Manual

caterpillar guy · Feb 12, 2022

The tag shows it being a 2400. I know the levers can rust up between the levers at the pivot. Never had trouble with the connections or under the tunnel as you guys put it. Our problem was always with the range lever. Broke the shaft off a couple times. Have to pull the lever shaft out and replace. We got so welded them up and ground back to fit the hole forgot about the useless o-ring on the shaft. For the speed section it has been flawless in use. Our range section is so worn we put a stop piece on to hold it up for neutral it can set on the stop. The rest is fine. High range is not real good on it but rarely need the high range on a loader anyway. Oil applied to the base of the levers will get about as much results as you can get. It can and will soak into the area of the pivot or you can take the tin work off and remove the snap ring then pursue getting the lever off with heat and oil or soaking and wiggling. Heat and oil will work faster if you have a torch. Be careful of the wiring harness there.

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