Hay Loader in Farmall H

As a kid in Nebraska I remember my uncle had a hay loader on his Farmall H. I don't know how it worked, but it used hydraulics and we all know those were very limited on a Farmall H. It had a single arm on the front which went up and a joint with another arm beyond that. It had some kind of grapple. This was used for stacked hay in the winter. Anyone remember these? Pictures? I'm curious. Thanks, kelly
 
Around here, people used a loader made by farmhand on H farmalls. The loader wrapped all the way around the tractor when attached, and had its own independent hydraulic system that ran off of the tractor p.t.o. The same loader would fit on an M. These same loaders would fit on other makes and models with alterations to the axel mounts. Weren't popular on John Deere. They had hand clutches, and operator didn't have enough hands to run the loader and drive.
The one your describing sounds different than a farmhand. And weren't common in my area.
 
From my Popular Science book issue 1947.
Lots of interesting stuff to make from junk.
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One time my uncle showed me a metal frame it had a pulley and winch mechanism that somehow bolted up to an old Farmall. The winch mechanism would connect to the belt pulley with a flat belt. He explained it as a hay fork of some type. The way it looked it was somewhat like a forklift style. With a vertical mast for the cradle carriage to go up and down on, lifted by cables and the winch. Apparently had some type of brake to hold it up once it was lifted. He said it was used more for picking up loose hay from stacks in the field and loading it onto a wagon to bring into the barn hay mow. That was 5 plus years ago, said he had kept it from going to scrap because he might fix it up for a parades. Does not look like that is going to happen.
 
I think the Farmhand loader was an F10. These loaders would go pretty high as near as I know. The F11 was much smaller.
 
We had a H ihc with a loader on it. It had a trip bucket. Had it's own hyd system. Pump and reservoir was mounted on right side. Ran a couple of v belts to another pulley bolted to the origonal belt pulley. It just bolted to the frame of tractor. Was real heavy on front axle.
 
The style loader your describing, was less bulky and didn't go as high. Most people hated the trip bucket function.
The old farmhand loader had cylinder to cable action for bucket function. This made for some control, but to lower was only done by gravity. Though better than a trip, it was pretty primitive. Weight determined how fast bucket would tilt. And if heavy, it would tilt fast. But could be stopped with control of the cylinder, IF you didn't break the cables in doing so.
 
Yes, they went high. A little short of 20 feet high no problem. That's why they was really popular for stacking loose hay. Operators kind of knew about how high they could go (which was higher than most people dared to go) and didn't push it. I believe the cylinders could be blown out the end (no cylinder stops). Most people only dumped in just so much hydraulic oil into the reservoir so you'd be out of oil before blowing the ram out the end of the cylinder. Been along time since I had a cylinder apart for seal replacement). But if I remember right, there is just one collar that goes on the end held be a small single bolt. Could easily be broke by hydraulic cylinder pressure.
 
This is an image of the loader on our Farmall H looked like.
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Used it to remove silage from the pit silo.
One way hydraulics, very slow.
Trip bucket.
Loader cracked the bell housing in half.
 
Bridge style Farmhand was popular in our part of SD. It, as described below, had it's own hydraulic system. It had a hydraulic tank that was on the back of the cage & its own pump was connected to the tractor's PTO. The full level was a plug about 2/3 of the way up on the (+/-) 5 gallon tank. This level of oil didn't allow too much oil so that you couldn't over extend the lift arms. That type of loader was great for stacking hay.
 

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