90's Case Skid loader ...locked wheels

Kevin Happke · Jan 23, 2022

I have a friend who has a 1990's Case skid loader....not sure what the model number is but, We wanted to use it Yesterday so we pluged in and got it going and let it run for over a half hour, the air tempature was zero and the machine sits outside.....so when I went to drive it, the wheels on the right side of the machine would not move forward or reverse......so I let the owner get back in it and he mess around with it while and finally got it to move.....Could there condensation/water in that side of the machine that is freezing solid causing the chains and gears to freeze solid so they can't move? Or what else would cause this?

Doug-Iowa · Jan 23, 2022

Ice would be my first guess. Especially if the machine is not been maintained. Check the hyd and chain case oils for milky appearance indicating water. I'm not sure if that vintage had separate oils for the hyd and chain case. My 1994 bobcat uses same oil for both. If you have water in the oil the only option is to get it in a warm shop and change it. And keep it under roof or it will happen again.

caterpillar guy · Jan 23, 2022

Only solution is get in where it is warm thaw drain refill. If there is a drain for just the wheekl housings you might be able to let them drain out the water and be fine or just drain and refill with new oil.

showcrop · Jan 23, 2022

Tell him to not think that keeping it under cover will keep the moisture out. Modern oils suck the moisture right out of the air every time that the machine cools off. He needs to either get the cases hot regularly or drain the oil every year.

dlbuck · Jan 23, 2022

If it sits outside I would almost guarantee it is water froze in the chain case. To the side of the foot rests there are plastic covers, there are covers in the back of the machine also. The drain plugs are in the back of the machine, two on each side. One side is chain case drain and fuel drain, the other side is chain case drain and hydraulic fluid drain. Depending on what the machine was used for the plugs may be boogered up some.

urbancase · Jan 24, 2022

i am guessing you are talking about something like 1845 skidsteer, i never been able to get drain plugs out of mine so i pumped the oil out of the top and refill. it sounds like it froze up.

Dennis Minn · Jan 24, 2022

Kevin,

Perhaps the parking pin is locked in the front chain sprocket? Or maybe the cable that pulld the pin out is broken. Mine are located at the foot of the footwell on each side.

D.

Jeff NWOH · Jan 24, 2022

I've worked on a couple 1840's. They have a parking brake that consists of a rod that fits through a ring of holes in one of the sprockets to lock it. They are mechanically released when you pull the handles into the operate position. I'd take a look at all that linkage. I'd guess something there was frozen and messing around with it and the heat from it running it loosened it up.

As mentioned, the plastic covers for the chain cases are horrible for letting water in. The last one I worked on, I tossed the rubber gaskets and used rtv to seal them up. I also had to make a metal strap to go across the top of them as they all had the mounting ears cracked or broken off.

BarnyardEngineering · Jan 24, 2022

All the sitting around waiting for it to "warm up" doesn't help the chain boxes. No oil circulates down there. Glad he didn't wreck something trying to get it to move.

Alvin 41 · Jan 24, 2022

We've used 1845 Skid loaders since 1978 and they all get water in the wheel chain cases if left outside if the covers aren't sealed perfectly , And they can freeze solid and it takes a lot of heat to thaw so it can be drained .

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