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Herrigator vs soil surgeon

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T-Nason

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Looking for some healthy debate,
Ive always used a herrigator for my final pass in the field before planting corn. Does a decent job in my toledo silt clay of northwest Ohio. Noticed someone on Facebook with a soul surgeon for sale. Looks like a old rock boat with rows of U shapes knives under. How well did these work? Did the herrigator replace them? Kinda curious. Thoughts?
 
Had to do some searching on the net, would these be the two implements?

That would be an awful heavy harrow, we just use the floating sections of harrow. With all the weight of that machine, my clay soils would pack up and drag along, wouldnt want anything that rigid. Need more flexibility.

But then, the soil surgeon has me searching my soul...... I dont know if I could move 20 feet with that doing anything but make a mess in my wet clay dirt. Never seen such a thing in person, Ive seen it mentioned here before. I really cant see what it accomplishes. Obviously everything has a place and a purpose so it does something somewhere. I just dont see what in my backyard.

Paul
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The harrow shown is what we use out here. We call them Dixon harrows as that was who built them. Do a good job for us.
 
In my part of Western Illinois the harrowgator was popular for several years when spring plowing was still done to break up hard clods of dirt that a disk would just shove around and help level the field. Never saw the bottom one before, looks like neither one would work in minimum till or no til that is used today.
 
Both items in question would probably work behind a plow as a clod buster though niether one would be very good for a final pass before planting. Something more like a floating type of spike mounted on the back of a field cultivator would work better. It can flex with the surface and still level the ground out some. Mind you nothing works well in wet muddy heavy dirt. Lately everybody seems to have gone to those egg beater looking deals to replace packers behind tillage tools or to nothrill.
 
The Harrowgator shown in Paul,s comment does not appear to have the pitch control on it , which means it could be a headache in damp soil or cornstalks. Both of these situations can be overcome if the implement is properly adjusted . If youre pulling dirt , it is too nose heavy; the pitch control picks up the front in very small increments for maximum pulverization and minimum plugging. In high trash conditions the pitch is maxed out so only the last three rows of teeth are in the dirt. At times when you need to fill ruts, disengage the pitch completely and let it pull all the dirt it wants, and drive diagonally across the ruts . It will then unload and fill them up real nice. If it ever does start pulling dirt when you dont want it to, never use the wheels to pick it up. Instead, raise the implement that is pulling it . This way it will spread the plug evenly instead of making a huge mound in the field that will take 3 years to get rid of. If it plugs repeatedly, just keep moving the pins back in the pitch control until you strike a balance between maximum harrow action and no plugging.
 
We had one of those I used to pull around with a Super C when I was a kid. Two sections bolted together, they dont seem to have changed much in the last fifty years. What you are looking at is in transport position. It has skids that it rides on so you can get it to the field. When you get there, just run a chain across it and flip it over.
 
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