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grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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I'm going to rant here for a minute so if you want to stop now, you have been warned. Redforlife felt like I may end up in the buyer/ seller review someday with a bad review. Well, by his logic let's put all businesses down for a bad review. I'm sure Napa, home Depot, Lowe's, Walmart........ All buy low and sell for more. No one seems to mind that. But if I make a few bucks on a tractor, I'm the bad guy??? Sheesh. Somewhere along the way I guess I got confused, I thought making a little profit was a good thing. Maybe the basic plan of the US economy?? From now on I will limit myself to watered down boring posts, no need to ruffle feathers.
 
Grandpa,
I'm happy for anyone who is self employed
, doing what he loves and can make buck.
Sorry there are people on YT who hate successful businessmen.
 
Contrary to popular belief, profit is NOT a curse word. Personally, I am happy to see you make a couple bucks. That is what makes the world go around.

Those who criticize you for making a profit are most likely jealous of you. Too bad for them.
 
When I flipped tractors it just paid for the addiction and a little daily pocket money. It be was more like a hobby which we all need.

Vito
 
Keep on keeping on, youre one of the posters I enjoy reading most. No need to feel guilty for making a couple bucks and doing what you love.
 
Grandpa, I have been in business for over 45 years. If I hadn't made a few bucks over the years I still wouldn't be in business today. That is the way it is supposed to be. You are not in business to be a servant to the public for nothing. That is your livelyhood. That is how you feed your family. Naysayers come and go. I have had a bunch of great customers over the years and I have had some that I prayed would never come back. Don't worry about what one person says or thinks, your good customers will take care of you. Maybe the guy that is giving you the grief is like the guy that bought the truck and started hauling watermelons out of the south. He was buying them for a dollar and selling them for a dollar. He finally figured out he wasn't making any money,so he went out and bought a bigger truck.
 
You aren't ruffling feathers. If the buyer doesn't like the deal you offer him get your shotgun out and run him off your property!!!!!!
 
George that was of the first lessons I learned on here , some just resent dealers BECAUSE a dealer makes money. Just as you say have to learn to live with it.
 
I only know you from your posts on YT. So my comments are based on that knowledge. You seem like a good man and have your life together. You have a great wife and family and take care of your folks. That is the most important thing in life. You are making a living and supporting the government as everybody that makes a profit does. If you didnt make a profit, the government would be paying you. So anyone who is against someone or corporation making a profit is the ignorant one. You and your wife have posted many times when you shared your good fortune, making signs, hay rides, helping people I need, etc. One thing Ive noticed over the years, if you are lucky enough to have it together, someone will always be jealous of you. But they are usually the ones that barely have a job during the week and sit in front of a TV all weekend. I feel sorry for them because their life is so empty they secretly wish they could be as happy as we are
 
I guess I missed that one. NO profit no business in the future. I like profits. Sometimes your the windshield and sometimes your the bug forget about them. Like Lincoln said you can please all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but not all the people all of the time.
 
Kevin keep doing what your doing. Everyone needs to make money. Just be honest with the buyer. I enjoy your posts. RB
 
Heres a prescription for your problem

Sit back with a hot beveridge of your choice

Have a biscuit with honey and jam on it

Forget about whats upsetting you


Give Grandma a big hug


Do what you like,,,and what ever

Repeat this prescription as needed

(warning)

harmful side effects could result in extreme happiness,,weight gain is possible,,and studies have shown bicuits can become addictive ,
 
Geez.....I guess I was a little harsh. So be it. Your equipment, your decision on how its priced and if the potential buyer doesn't like it they can go elsewhere. Just what's wrong with that....... nothing!
 
Kevin, please keep posting about your adventures and ventures.
Don't let a troll tell you what you can and can't do.
If you quit posting these great stories, I will be on the phone all the time calling you to see what you are doing.
You can't spend that much time on the phone. LOL
Your NW SC friend, Richard
 
I went back and reread your post and his reply. You did nothing wrong. You told the buyer what you knew was wrong with it and he was happy to buy it at your price.Ignore red for life and keep on keeping on. He sounds like the guy who tells you that you paid too much for something because he is mad that he didnt get to buy it before you did.Put him in with the group of people that you have done jobs for and will never do another for them!!
 
Don't worry about it, some people will make negative comments about anything, you just have to ignore them and go on with your life! Do they expect you to buy and sell, and haul equipment around for no profit? It takes a lot of money to keep an old Ford truck running!
 
I went back and read the guys response and I don't get it. Some people are born to be whiners. There are people in this world that just don't like to see any success by anyone other than themselves. I would bet almost anyone on this board that could save an old tractor and then sell it to make a few bucks would do so without hesitation. I would love to do half of what you do with finding tractors and getting them running and moving them on to someone else. You're the main reason I decided not to sell my Cub last year. Its one of 12 smaller tractors I have and struggle to find use for all of them with the Cub being the hardest since its the smallest but I like hearing your Cub stories and I'm thinking by keeping mine I have a small part in the effort. I do however wish you would buy more IH and less Fords. LOL
 
I have learned over the years that if the seller and the buyer are both happy with the deal, who cares what any others think!

It is like someone complaining about the color of YOUR tractor. (I do like the variety in colors you have created, and the stories behind them)
 

If you had mis-represented it and ripped the guy off, that would be one thing. Stuff like that is what gets the bad reviews.
You did not do that. You were entirely up front about what was or was not wrong with it. Both parties are happy. No problem!
 
Easy Kevin, ya did no wrong, ya told the prospective buyer the issues, he still wished to buy at the price you set, he has no reason to complain, doesnt mean he wont, but you did right and thats what matters in the end. Last Allis I sold, I emailed the man a list of everything I knew that was wrong before he ever came to look at it (7hour drive) I wanted him to know what condition I thought it was in and the price I had set took these issues into consideration, he still wanted it, thanked me for the honesty, and we still speak from time to time.
 
You were up front with the buyer so I don't see any problem.You are able to see a Diamond in the rough when others are saying its only worth scrap iron price.If the selling price suits you and the buyer that is really all that matters.Actually you are saving a lot of old tractors that would have probably been scrapped eventually,think that is the whole idea of this site.
 
Reminds me of the time I had an AC C with a wide front end and sickle bar mower for sale.The C was ROUGH and I stated that plainly in the ad.At $350 I was selling the front end and throwing the tractor and the mower in with the deal.A guy drove 600 miles to buy it,I was worried he still didn't realize what rough meant.Turned out he was pleased and bought two more tractors before he left so you never know.
 
Tucker, careful balance! Sell enough to buy more. Sometimes buy stuff you don't want or need, because you can sell it and help pay for the hobby!
 
Quite a few people are that stupid. You can't make money on that. Stores eat cost increases and lawsuits. You can't tell me not to go there (on your property). I don't have to drive on my side of the median (the current darling of the moment). I'll blow my grass onto the road while your vehicle drives by (hitting your windshield). My kid never starts a fight at school.

Not everyday is a picnic around here as of late but am sure glad I don't have to deal with people on a much wider basis such as living in an apartment building.
 
Story #1--I once bought a Dodge Seneca sight unseen for 75bucks. (it was in the dealer parking lot, but I was Busy with a customer's car) A man came into the shop and asked who owns the Seneca? I said I did. He said would you take 175.00 for it. I said sure. We went to the office and notarized the title to the new owner from the original owner. I went and looked at it on break. Slant 6 three on the tree, and faded brownish paint. 4 door. No person was harmed in the transaction. No feathers bent against their lay. Second story: On one of my first posts here on YT, I posted an opinion that a particular Farmall Super H was worth 1800. (I also had my Email open) Someone, who no longer posts here, Emailed me with high profanity and innuendo about my heritage. Being a newbie I almost never posted here again.
So it just goes to show that opinions are not facts, and good intentions are best practice. Jim
 
Kevin,you did nothing wrong.I would have done the same(and have numerous times)thing.You did the buyer a favor.You told him everything wrong.Lots of guys would not have.You provided him with an affordable tractor.You did npt twist hos arm,the buyer decided on his own to go ahead and purchace.If some in knothead doesn't like it,f...him and the white horse he rode up on.Keep up the good work.
 
Same as trades theres costs associated with keeping the lights on do what ya gotta do if your prices arent fair then customers dont have to buy if they are fair then your being paid to offer a service
 
If you price something fairly and are up front about the good, bad and ugly and someone gives you what you're asking, I fail to see the problem. I sold a car years ago - a 1981 Datsun 280zx. Man and his 16 year old son showed up to look at it. I told them all the good and bad about it and that it would need some work but was a solid car. The boy was the buyer. I seem to recall I was asking $1,200. They talked on the side... and the boy came back and said, I will give you $1,200 for it... exactly what I saved up for my first car. I said I will sell it to you for $1,100 cause it is your first car and is going to need some work and you will need to have some $$ to do the work on it. His father was stunned and told me later I made his boy's day. When I dropped it off for him, he was dancing around the car as he put the t-tops in it. His father told me he told his son that good people still exist and that it would come back to me someday. Grandpa Love, from what you post, you are good people. Buyer: Happy. Seller: Happy. Poster in question: Don't let him get you down.
 
I have met and had dealings with this family in person. They are an honest God fearing family and are totally commited to doing the right thing and being honest. The person or person that gripes about their business deals being profitable seems to have no idea what it takes to keep going in this world. Most comments like that are usually driven by jealousy and possible lack of self confidence in them selves. Now somebody can/will probably flame me for my opinion of this!
Gene Davis Tennille, Ga.
 
Comrade you are a capitalist pig, no one can make a profit in some people's mind, except maybe themselves. All kidding aside this is a free country and profit is the motivation that drives our economy, you had time and money invested and you should be entitled to a profit. You didn't hold a gun to the person's head and make him buy your tractor. He had a choice and he made it, you were both happy and who cares if someone else has a different opinion of your transaction. Some people just enjoy being difficult.
 
As my dad told me. You can never make everyone happy. So don't try.

I was on a service call around 250 miles. This man called the shop to have me stop in. I did found a loose connection. The write up would take longer than the job. So I said no charge. Went on to my original job. Found out the no charge job had called in to complain. Because I had not charged him. The problem must not be fixed. Another guy was sent out. Walked around the site wrote up the job and charged him.

I ask him what he found. Not a thing just faked it for an hour. Some folks are never happy.
 
I truly hope you dont stop posting. I like others really enjoy your posts and my dad always taught me if the buyer and seller are happy with the deal it was a good deal, dont worry about others.
 
When I was just out of school I used to go to a lot of garage sales.

Late one Sunday afternoon I stopped at a sale and got talking with the couple, they had sold their home and the moving truck was coming the next day and they just wanted what was left gone.

We agreed on $65 for everything on the lawn and they helped load it on my truck.

First stop the next day was the local consignment auction house where I unloaded everything except a nice Lawnboy commercial mower.

Later on that week after the sale once commission was paid I got exactly $65 for what I had brought in.

The Lawnboy I advertised and ended up trading it for a non running 1965 Honda dream motorcycle.

The motorcycle had electrical issues which I fixed then advertised it for sale.

I accepted a trade of a 1968 Fargo truck that had it's share of problems.

After some repairs to the Fargo it was traded for a 1975 Chevrolet Vega that was actually in pretty good condition.

I was offered a 1973 Monte Carlo and $1000 cash for the Vega.

The Monte Carlo I traded for a 1974 Chevrolet 4x4.

The 4x4 I drove for a while but it was in tough shape so in the end parted it out as at the time there was a strong demand for parts for those trucks.

Work was hard to find at the time so I looked for and did whatever I could to make a few dollars, if that was all wrong then I guess I should be sitting in the corner with you.
 
I enjoy your post even though I don't comment allot on them, so I hope you keep them coming. Buy low and sell high and get yourself a piece of the pie is the American way. I guess I missed what was said and tried to find it, but I couldn't. I did read where you sold a loader tractor if that was it, I saw nothing wrong with the way it went, you were up front with it. Seems like I read a while back you didn't let the negative comments bother you so I wouldn't let this one do so. You seem like a good guy to me and I would just keep on keeping on.
 
Create no paperwork...regardless of the temptation to see if they can read.. :)

Keep your stick on the ice...
 
Years ago I asked a question about a reply that someone had posted. BOY, OH BOY, did he get mad. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. When someone disagrees with me, I will attempt to let it go because who am I to impose my will upon others? It is easier said than done sometimes, but if it isn't life changing, why let it upset you? You can't please everyone and that's for sure. On the other hand, if someone I have the utmost respect for, waves a flag at me, I going to give them my full attention.
Tomorrows a new day
SDE
 
People get themselves all chafed up over nothing. If I recall you have been buying and selling tractors and equipment as a sideline to your construction business. Nothing wrong with buying right and selling right, as in to make a few bucks, helps you keep your head above water.
 
You can put any price on anything you want, nobody makes anyone pay it. Different people have different needs and values so will pay more or less for the same thing. Keep posting here, enjoy your adventures.
 
You did no wrong.

Theres always one person that will reply to a post that either do not have a clue or cannot help but to be critical in their reply - completely uncalled for.

When selling hay, I will have some bottom or misshaped bales, some with dust or mold and a low ball price on them to be fair and upfront about what they are buying. Yet - some customers want to pick through the stack for the best or give me the ol it aint worth that. When and if they return, full price. I do not need customers like that.

I do think you need to move into the MF side of things to bring balance to those Fords and IH tractors!
 
I have no dog in the fight here one way or the other ....... but with regards to the reply to your original post, let's not forget that this is a discussion forum and unless the reply was disrespectful or nasty, then it was not out of line. RFL simply replied with his opinion, pretty simple and he wasn't being obnoxious or out of line in my opinion. I'm sure if you had not mentioned the 'made a nice profit' comment, he might not have replied. I've seen some things here on the forum at times about stock market investing or flipping properties and profiting which personally I liken to bragging, but like RFL, that's just my opinion. I think I have mentioned that a time or two in the past with those posts.
 
There are 7 billion plus humans on this planet...

If you think you're going to go through life without crossing paths with a few dozen true opinionated jackasss..

Forget it and move on....and remember the jackassss you crossed paths with was hiding behind a computer,true definition of gutless...
Bob..
 
Well, you asked for it! You post a lot, always buying every Cub and accessory in sight. Some people are going to view that as competition because the appearance is that you leave nothing for anyone else. When you post what you bought some people will always feel you are bragging. When you sell something at a profit they feel you are picking the pocket of someone like them. It all boils down to human nature and, ultimately, that you care what they think. You paint the target on yourself every time you post. I buy a lot of tools and don't sell nearly enough of them. I have had the same issues on forums that you are having. Redforlife is not a bad soul. He tries to help on the IH forum when he can. Something just set him off last night...or maybe it was you who over reacted. Either way...not worth all this fuss. Have a biscuit...talk to your wife. Move on.
 
I'll probably get in Dutch for saying this, but speaking in generalities there seem to be some folks who are addicted to posting on this forum and seem compelled to post every move they make during a day.

If you have something meaningful or informational to say, by all means say it. But, on the other hand, there is something called 'information overload' and I don't need to hear every detail of someone's day. When it gets to the point where every other post that is posted is under the same name I usually just ignore them and don't read any of them.

On the flip side, I assume there are those who don't bother to read some of my ramblings.
 
(quoted from post at 05:38:52 01/17/22) I'm going to rant here for a minute so if you want to stop now, you have been warned. Redforlife felt like I may end up in the buyer/ seller review someday with a bad review. Well, by his logic let's put all businesses down for a bad review. I'm sure Napa, home Depot, Lowe's, Walmart........ All buy low and sell for more. No one seems to mind that. But if I make a few bucks on a tractor, I'm the bad guy??? Sheesh. Somewhere along the way I guess I got confused, I thought making a little profit was a good thing. Maybe the basic plan of the US economy?? From now on I will limit myself to watered down boring posts, no need to ruffle feathers.
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I have read his posts and take them with a grain of salt. My philosophy has been and still is, "if your going to do something for nothing you may as well do nothing for nothing".
 
I always look forward to your post's. If you make a few dollars on a deal that is how it's supposed to work. When I was starting farming 54 years ago, we were at my brother in laws for Sunday dinner, after dinner we went out to see his new Oliver and 4 bottom plow (nice). He says to me If you're interested that 3 16 IH plow is for sale It would be nice with you 400 IH. I said how much, he says 25.00, I say I'll take it. Picked it up the next day with the pickup. Used it for several days and liked it a lot. When my plowing was finished my neighbor stopped in and asked if I would sell the plow, I said if I did I would want 125.oo for it. He says no problem I'll take it. Next time I saw my BIL he asked how I liked the plow? I said it was a really good plow, but when I was done a neighbor wanted to buy it. He asked what did I do? I told him I sold it to him for 125.00 dollars. His comment was that is a good deal That's how you get ahead in life.
 
Who cares if he buys every tractor in his 3 state area. His money and ambition. As a CPA you should applaud him. You like to buy tools. No different!

Vito
 
very well stated thoughts, everyone keep up the great work, and keep sharing life as we enjoy it!
That is the whole problem with Agriculture in general, most don't want to share their story, and the
Consumer wants to share/have more knowledge on what we are providing them! Keep up the great work! GG
 
I think Dave is just stating how he thinks some other people might feel rather than his own feelings on the matter. In general some people do not like it when they think someone else is getting the upper hand especially when it comes to business. Post about your success and there will be some that will be jealous. Just grow a thick skin as long as you are being honorable with others. Too much bad feelings in general anymore especially on the internet. I miss JD Seller and wish he would let some of the stuff just blow over his shoulders rather than dig in and be offended over what might not even be intended as disrespect.
 
If I buy equipment or vehicles and I sell them for more than I bought them for that is a win. No person is forced in to buying, if they don t like the price they can pass. This is even more so with this sale of yours, you were forthcoming with the problems and they still decided that they would pay your asking price. I think by reading 4 pages of folks that feel the same way it is safe to assume that you are doing things right. Now this would be a different story if you ripped this guy off by masking problems or being dishonest about it's condition... But you didn't!
 
i will say this first, i am 50/50 on this. many people dont like tractor flippers including me. i have bought tractors from people that dont want the thing to be just bought and resold again. they have told me many times they want it going to someone who would use it, restore it , look after it. i even had one guy call the person after i gave my deposit and try and offer more money. i know that person was a tractor flipper. i bought quite a few tractors over lots of years and the sellers were good. i totally avoid a tractor jockey. i see them tractor jockey's on face book lots with a double or three time price increase and those tractors are just sitting waiting for the one special guy to show up. i called one guy and he could not even give me the story on the tractor,... just said ooh ya the guy died and he did a whole pile of work to the engine ,plus did not know a thing about the T.A. or how it worked. tractor still there from last fall. i am staying neutral here and just giving info as i have experienced.
 
I read a lot of your ramblings Goose .... and one reason is related to your comment. You're not posting a 24/7 verbal or security camera report of your hour-by-hour activities during the day. I can' get my head around why anyone does that but they do. Plus of course, they are often on Tractor Talk instead of Tractor Tales. My solution is like yours, I tend to ignore those posts. Obviously I'm beginning to ramble and go off on a tangent. Interesting post nonetheless.
 
Flippers and jockeys have for the most part disappeared around here. Too many people that will go crazy at an auction and the rest who have no money to spend whatsoever. Some will try for a flip but as a one time jockey told me everybody has the internet now so everybody knows what something will sell for its given condition. Pretty isolated that a 7,000 dollar tractor will go at auction for say 5,000 dollars to make a killing on that tractor.
 
(quoted from post at 12:24:12 01/17/22) I have no dog in the fight here one way or the other ....... but with regards to the reply to your original post, let's not forget that this is a discussion forum and unless the reply was disrespectful or nasty, then it was not out of line. RFL simply replied with his opinion, pretty simple and he wasn't being obnoxious or out of line in my opinion. I'm sure if you had not mentioned the 'made a nice profit' comment, he might not have replied. I've seen some things here on the forum at times about stock market investing or flipping properties and profiting which personally I liken to bragging, but like RFL, that's just my opinion. I think I have mentioned that a time or two in the past with those posts.
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Well said. I didn't see anything wrong with that reply, just presenting an opinion on what might happen.

This place, and others as well, has a habit of gangbanging anyone who doesn't toe the line on the prevailing mindset.

That said, I have no problems with Grampa buying and selling and making a few bucks. I've done the same with cars, trucks, musical instruments, etc.

If anyone doesn't like that, oh well......

This post was edited by Carlmac 369 on 01/17/2022 at 10:12 am.
 
Don't worry about it, I enjoy your posts. I never sell anything unless I can make a profit or at lest break even. I guess that's why I got tooooo much stuff.
 
I have also meet and had dealing with Grandpa and his family. I also agree with what Gene said about them being honest and committed to doing the right thing. I am sure that he was honest in the deal in question and did make the buyer aware of the tractors problems. Grandpa, just keep on doing what youre doing and enjoy.
 
Mr. Love I had to go look up the post to see what was said. I read your post before is reply and I was tickled for you!

I have no idea what got that other guy ties in a know but after reading the post I am guessing he lives in his mother's basement.

I really enjoy your posts and have deep respect for your ethics - religious ethics, work ethics, and personal honesty and pride. Thank you for posting - I really enjoy what you write.
 
Vito,
I look at how many tractors GP has kept from going to the scrappers. We all should applaud his efforts, not be jealous of him.
 
Kevin, maybe all of those people that own a business in town are doing it all wrong. Maybe they are buying at wholesale and selling it at wholesale, so they are not making a profit. But they are still in business for now. When we find their product cheaper{online} we will buy it and sooner or later the brick-and-mortar store will close. Keep it up and make a profit you have to live. I am with you on this. Good talking with you yesterday. Lifted my spirits a lot.
 
I wonder if he was banned, I seen his reply to this post where it says last post (late this morning)I read it, then it was gone. It wasn't in the thread. He basically tried to clarify what he meant it seemed, nothing nasty. Not sure where it went. I remember him giving you a hard time about your pickup too.
 
Well the selling price was his first clue! He probably figured for that price he could buy most anything.
 
I know who you are talking about and he has feelings. If you don't like what he has to say, move on. Due to the time of year and weather Cabin Fever is prevelant. I have it and I am not currently up to my buns in snow. As long as the site cops tolerates him buzz off!
 
I fit your description for sure,,,I guess loneleness has me posting so much,,It seems to help me get by. I relize I Overdo it ,,and sorry if I have offended anyone with goings on
 
(quoted from post at 14:08:42 01/17/22) [b:9acce116cc]I think Dave is just stating how he thinks some other people might feel rather than his own feelings on the matter.[/b:9acce116cc]
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That's exactly how I read it.

He also attempted to clarify that point in another post, I think it was in the original thread about selling the Ford loader tractor.

People read too fast or only partly read a given post and immediately jump to confusions.

Redforlife's own words here copied and pasted from this thread:

https://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1544443

[b:9acce116cc]"Well, OK. The reply sure sounds different than the original post. But, that's not what I was getting at. I think the point I was trying to make, somehow got missed.
I don't think there is any thing wrong at all with buying, selling, flipping, or even working on tractors. Or doing it with a profit in mind. Everyone knows that's how the world works.
My point was, it might not be ones best interest to be talking about details of these flips on here. Not, that you are in any way doing anything wrong. It might not be ones best interest to be telling how a tractor didn't work out for you, and it's off to the next guy. If a buyer did end up unhappy for some reason or nother (and I'm not saying that one even did), it probably wouldn't help things out for them to read on here that it was a flip. It'd just take one bad apple, to post a bad review.
I guess I'm being blamed for being the bad apple, for just suggesting that it could possibly happen. And possibly happen because of what one might read on here in regards to it being a flip."[/b:9acce116cc]

This post was edited by Carlmac 369 on 01/17/2022 at 02:33 pm.
 
(quoted from post at 19:29:39 01/17/22) I fit your description for sure,,,I guess loneleness has me posting so much,,It seems to help me get by. I relize I Overdo it ,,and sorry if I have offended anyone with goings on
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Don't worry about posting too much, not that I think you do.

Post as much as you want about anything you want to. That goes for everybody else too.

It's everyone's choice to read or not and no ones right to tell anyone else what or how much to post.

Keeping posts in the proper forums here is a much bigger problem to me but very few others here care about that so the big three forums are a mess due to that.

Then there is classic view and that's all I'm gonna say about that.
 
Not jealous of him at all. Did the same thing in a different time period just dont say much about what I do and have done.

Vito
 
I'm not offended at all Larry, nor is anyone else I don't think. A LOT of people here enjoy your posts and photos etc. and if they do that makes me happy.
 
Sounds good ,,,we can all get along .Lots different trying to express thoughts through typing.I think A Whole lot of these misunderstandings would never happen if people were talking instead of typing back and fourth
 
You're spot on with that Larry ...... this is really the only site of its kind I visit on a regular basis. I visit sport sites like the NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB but that's just sporting news and there is no interaction. I don't post a whole lot, I usually get into trouble when I reply with some of my 'abundant' political views, I should know better .... ha!
 
I don't see anything wrong with what you're doing. If there was, used and new car dealers would be run out of town. As long as you disclosed what you knew about the tractor and the buyer was happy that puts you ahead of any car dealer I ever knew.
 
I read most of your posts but seldom reply as I'm also on lots of other places and dont have the time..Theres nothing wrong with making some profit on a business deal..You were upfront on the deal..So keep on keeping on...
 
Well GL,
I almost Never read the threads you start.
Dunno why I clicked on this one.
But you are NOT as bad as that fellow from
IN. Good Lord he needs to get a life.
As to making a profit I am 100% on your side.
If you have the nose for sniffing out a deal, the dough to make the investment and the sense to price a thing so another man is happy with the deal and you make a profit I am all for it. I'm happy for you and not jealous at all.
 
Im a little late to the game here, just been reading all the quotes that everyone has posted here. I know GP Love from several dealings weve had and to the poster that does not like his buying and selling of tractors I say if you dont have a dog in the hunt then stay on the porch. He is good man and went way out of the way to horse trade with me on several occasions. No need in treating him like a polecat at a picnic. He has rescued countless numbers of junk tractors and resurrected them to be used again instead of going to the scrap yard. I can say this with 100% certainty as Im a repeat customer of his. And one last thing, if you dont have something positive to say in a reply then move on and keep your opinion to yourself. I read lots of stuff on here but dont jump in just to be sarcastic. Keep up the good work and keep posting GPL.
 
You bought something you thought you could use and found out it was not going to do the job you wanted, instead of scraping it you found somebody that thought it was good for hin and do what he wanted to do with it even if it took repairs.
 
No, JD storyteller got called out on a couple of his yarns he spun, his BS, and he didnt like it, The truth hurts I guess,
 
I recently bought a MF 202 Workbull with just the loader from a reseller. I think the guy made a little extra money finding tractors and getting them running better and selling them. I was very happy with the purchase price, if I had not been I would not have handed over the cash. I am happy that the guy rescued this tractor from a barn somewhere. It runs like a top, I think he replaced the carb and tuned it up. I don't think you are getting rich, I enjoy your posts, keep the Cubs running and don't let the grumps run you off.
 
The irony of the situation is, these people that run you down for making a profit will give you the old Greta, "HOW DARE YOU!" if you try to call them for turning a profit on something. Hypocrisy of the highest level.
 
(quoted from post at 11:38:30 01/18/22) The irony of the situation is, these people that run you down for making a profit will give you the old Greta, "HOW DARE YOU!" if you try to call them for turning a profit on something. Hypocrisy of the highest level.
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Where are these people who are running him down? I haven't seen any.

There are a lot of people who misunderstood redforlife's post and are running him down though.





This post was edited by Carlmac 369 on 01/18/2022 at 07:03 am.
 
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(quoted from post at 11:38:30 01/18/22) The irony of the situation is, these people that run you down for making a profit will give you the old Greta, "HOW DARE YOU!" if you try to call them for turning a profit on something. Hypocrisy of the highest level.
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Where are these people who are running him down? I haven't seen any.

There are a lot of people who misunderstood redforlife's post and are running him down though.





This post was edited by Carlmac 369 on 01/18/2022 at 07:03 am.
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Speaking of misunderstanding a post... There were no names named and I was speaking in general terms, as that is where the thread had gone.

Frankly I don't even understand what redforlife was going on about in his first response, and I'm a pretty thorough reader. The second "clarification" post really didn't help much.
 
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(quoted from post at 08:01:08 01/18/22)
(quoted from post at 11:38:30 01/18/22) The irony of the situation is, these people that run you down for making a profit will give you the old Greta, "HOW DARE YOU!" if you try to call them for turning a profit on something. Hypocrisy of the highest level.
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Where are these people who are running him down? I haven't seen any.

There are a lot of people who misunderstood redforlife's post and are running him down though.
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I exclusively use modern view except for the odd occasion when I use classic to see who posters are replying to and that is hit or miss at best.

In modern view there is no indication whatsoever as to who you are responding to.

Your post was in reply to Grandpa Love according to classic view so I treated it accordingly.

As for not understanding redforlife's posts, I have nothing, unless reading comprehension is at fault.





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I have always admired successful, self-employed people. First off, you are doing something that you like, and making a living doing it. And secondly, for you at least, you are working with your wife, and getting along, enjoying each other; and that's what life is all about. It takes a little courage to not have a regular job, and depend on yourself instead to make a living. I have considered doing what you are doing myself, but I just don't like wheeling and dealing, buying and selling. I just like the work. So, my hat is off to you: keep doing what you like, and don't worry about what others say. But on the other hand, I did not think he was serious about the seller feedback, so maybe I misread it, or his meaning. Mark.
 
Oh you just fond that out Gee . BTDT , that is WHY i never bought anything from any sales remotely close to home . As someone will know somebody that was at that sale and know what you paid for it then want to buy it for half what you paid and truck it for free both ways . Yea i bought a boat load of 706 gassers most came from the dead row alot more running ones with the T/A out , when they left they were field ready the ones with new T/A's left with two year warranty . No i did not GOUGE but i did make money . Here is the price , oh you want to trade ok then this is what i will give you for yours and take that off the top , that simple. People would come to me looking for a tractor or what ever and i would give them a price what it was going to cost them at my door . Some would hand me some dead presidents for a down stroke and i would usually have them a go to the field tractor by the first part of the next week . Some did mot like my go to the field prices but ya want quality then ya got to pay the piper to get them and ya don't truck them 4-500 miles for nothing and i did not go to sales that far out to B/S with people or to buy a hot dog and a pepsi . I was working the sale and when your working you had best be on your game . You had to know when they were tryen to play you and what auctioneers you could work with . I have had people try to use there STANDING in life to get you to lower your price to what they wanted to pay . One congressman thought that i should fix his tractor for free just so i could say that OH i fixed his tractor . NOT , one foot ball payer only wanted to give me 4000 on a 9000 dollar tractor and was put out that when i told him that i did not care who he was and i don't watch foot ball as it is a waist of my time and the price is still 9 k . Nope he did not buy it but some old dairy farmer did and was thrilled to get one so cheap and good. Not two hours after he was there . Local I H dealer said to me one day at lunch at the little local eatery Oh i see you still have that 706 you have had now going on what two months now , Ah no Frank that one just came in Saturday evening and there are three more coming and two in the shop why . True KODAK moment when his mouth dropped like a rock , his next words were You sold that one Oh yea nad seven more just like it , why ya want me to buy you some good tractors to put on your lot since you do not have anything to sell. And i ge NO all you buy is Junk , yea sometime i do but when they go out the door they are good and oh i stand behind what i sell.
 
Sorry but I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about here. From what I read from Redforlife's response some people might not understand what he was trying to say but I won't get into that. About a week ago someone posted about the fact that he needed a water valve for his washing machine. Well he went on to say that a local company wanted so much more money for that valve then what he finally paid for it. Several responses chastised the local company for wanting so much more money. Well its kind of the same thing here. G-L has the right to make a profit and the local company had the right to also. That's capitalism at it best!!
 
I'm the guy that needed the washing machine part.

My complaint was that the asking price of the local part was 4 TIMES the price of the mail order one. I would have gladly paid double the price of the mail order part, but 4 times was excessive in my opinion.

Let me go on to explain that by the time you paid tax, shipping, and waiting time, it would certainly be worth it to pay the extra to have it in my hand right away.

Also note that if I were a commercial account my price on the local part would have been right in line with the mail order part.

I have no problem with a business making a profit, but there is a line between profit and gouging. I feel they crossed that line.
 
Good morning. I remembered that it was you but didn't want to include any names. I understand why you ordered the part online because I order things online some times when I find them cheaper. My only thoughts are what the bottom line is of the business you were trying to get the part from. Do they rely on retail sales or service. Are you a regular customer? That shouldn't matter but some businesses just work that. It all comes down to you weren't happy with the price so you went else where to get the part. The gentleman that bought the tractor from GL had that option. To take it or leave it and he was satisfied and took it. It worked out for both of you so that great. Have good day!!
 
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