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Geo-TH,In · Dec 16, 2021

GM Teases Ford F-150 Lightning Rival GMC Sierra Electric Truck Ahead Of 2022 Reveal
Short on details.
video.

Carlmac 369 · Dec 16, 2021

This has been up for two hours and no one has been ranting and bellowing about how useless electric vehicles are yet.

Is everyone alright?

SkipperII · Dec 16, 2021

SSSShhh, be vewy quiet, you might wake them up!!!

DRussell · Dec 16, 2021

Our local grocery store chain, Giant Foods, has EV charging stations in the parking lot. Went to the store last night and a Tesla was charging next to one. When I came out he was unhooking so I stopped to talk to him. He's young, college age. He said he's had the car for 2 years and in that time has paid a total of 2 dollars to charge it. He utilizes free chargers. He said that he has noticed battery degradation in 2 years of about 25 fewer miles on a full charge.

I asked if the free chargers are likely to go away, and he said yes, they will eventually.

He said he absolutely loves it and cannot imagine having to own a gasoline vehicle again.

Geo-TH,In · Dec 16, 2021

Thanks for the information.
All batteries have a life expectancy.

glennster · Dec 16, 2021

it will beinteresting to see how state and local governments handle the loss of revenue from motor fuel tax with the evs. some speculate an increase in licensing fees for evs, other say a device in the vehicles computer to send mileage in and taxed by miles driven. dont know for sure, but there is no such thing as a free lunch

Loosehandle · Dec 16, 2021

I don't believe I've ever see a public charging station of any kind in my area.

Tom in TN · Dec 16, 2021

Loosehandle,

I live in Southern Middle Tennessee about 40 miles due south of Nashville, near the town of Spring Hill. I. too, have never seen a public charging station. I personally, only know one person who has an EV and she has her own private charger There probably are public chargers around here but I don't know where they are.

Tom in TN

gene bender · Dec 16, 2021

SO when you shop there you are paying for free charging on their cars now whats fair about that

jimg.allentown · Dec 16, 2021

If you want one, you go ahead and buy one. I personally don't want one. Each to his/her/its own. The only rant I
would have is if somebody tried to force one on me.

Geo-TH,In · Dec 16, 2021

If I were in charge, I would put a road tax on the electricity used at charging stations to make up for loss of fuel tax.

And an additional charge to make up for the expense
Duke wants to charge residential users to pay for grid upgrades.

tim s · Dec 16, 2021

I'm with you Jim,,I don't care one way or the other,,just don't cram it down my throat,,or make me pay for yours...If these things are good let them evolve..but don't kill the economy by forcing them on us...

SVcummins · Dec 16, 2021

Carlmac 369 · Dec 16, 2021

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What's that supposed to mean? You post it a lot, it must have some meaning that is pertinent to the topic at hand.

SVcummins · Dec 16, 2021

Hope it works out for some its probably great . Maybe it will make for cheaper diesel

rlp in Co. · Dec 17, 2021

Hybrids make sense to me. They save on gas. The full electrics will use more fuel than combustion engines!

SVcummins · Dec 17, 2021

If its one thing the government knows its taxes . Probably tax us higher on the fossil fuel side

BarnyardEngineering · Dec 17, 2021

(quoted from post at 15:41:05 12/16/21)Duke wants to charge residential users to pay for grid upgrades.

The grid needs upgrades even without electric vehicles. Seems everyone has forgotten Texas February 2021. They're just the latest and most glaring example.

Government allows the power companies to charge just enough to keep their heads above water, no more. Then they mandate this and mandate that and mandate the other thing... All that costs money, which they're not allowed to collect from their customers, who are the ones reaping the benefits of the service.

Everyone, no matter which side of the coin they're on, thinks electricity is a god given right and they should not have to pay for it.

Bret4207 · Dec 17, 2021

(quoted from post at 14:14:25 12/16/21) Our local grocery store chain, Giant Foods, has EV charging stations in the parking lot. Went to the store last night and a Tesla was charging next to one. When I came out he was unhooking so I stopped to talk to him. He's young, college age. He said he's had the car for 2 years and in that time has paid a total of 2 dollars to charge it. He utilizes free chargers. He said that he has noticed battery degradation in 2 years of about 25 fewer miles on a full charge.

I asked if the free chargers are likely to go away, and he said yes, they will eventually.

He said he absolutely loves it and cannot imagine having to own a gasoline vehicle again.

So someone who had the $$$ (about $40-100K) for a Tesla has been getting "free" fuel. Who pays for that? The taxpayer. What a racket!

Bret4207 · Dec 17, 2021

(quoted from post at 09:53:26 12/17/21)

(quoted from post at 15:41:05 12/16/21)Duke wants to charge residential users to pay for grid upgrades.

Click to expand...

The grid needs upgrades even without electric vehicles. Seems everyone has forgotten Texas February 2021. They're just the latest and most glaring example.

Government allows the power companies to charge just enough to keep their heads above water, no more. Then they mandate this and mandate that and mandate the other thing... All that costs money, which they're not allowed to collect from their customers, who are the ones reaping the benefits of the service.

Everyone, no matter which side of the coin they're on, thinks electricity is a god given right and they should not have to pay for it.

Bingo!

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