Update on tripped plow

Paul Shuler · Oct 12, 2021

Well I have no good news on getting my plow to reset. I broke a 3/4 drive breaker bar trying to get the bolt loose. Put a chain and come a long around the point and the draw bar with a jack pushing up on the plow. Stepped away and the come a long exploded. Beat it with a sledgehammer and a 6x6 block of wood. I now have a chain wrapped around with a small 2 ton jack maxed out. Don't want to break it, but it's kicking my butt.

Dopp Creek · Oct 12, 2021

I think I'd be torching that bolt out and taking a good look at what is binding it up. If it's rusted that bad , the bolt should be replaced anyway.

super99 · Oct 12, 2021

Do you have a cutting torch? Not one of those hand held propane torches. I see 6 bolts and 2 pins holding the frame together. I'd heat the nuts and take them off, heat the pins and drive them out and take one side of the frame off and clean it up, replace with new bolts after oiling everything up good. When your done and have time, you might as well do the other bottom the same way, it's probably just as bad.

Jim.ME · Oct 12, 2021

I may be missing something in how you are using your jack, but looking at your pictures I can only see the jack lifting the plow. If that is what is happening you are only exerting a force about equal to the weight of the plow with the jack. The jack would need to be in a frame hanging from the plow frame, so the plow does not lift when the jack is pumped to properly exert the force of the jack onto the plow. All the force needs to go into the tripped plow (and a two ton jack may not be big enough). As Dopp Creek post you may want to be removing that pin to find out why it is binding.

Roger Tomfohrde · Oct 12, 2021

Get the pivot bolt soaked with penetrant. You should have been able to drop the plow on the ground and back up only. I know it may be stuck now. Have you tired getting a chain as close to the point and string it under the tractor near a tree tied to it down low or something very large and pull it towards the front by backing up with the tractor? Like mentioned loosening the pivot bolt may help. We only tripped ours a couple time in the 20 years I used a plow like that.

flying belgian · Oct 12, 2021

My gosh, I thought this problem was solved days ago. That jack is doing next to nothing. Do what Roger said.

DoubleR · Oct 12, 2021

When I get something that stubborn I park it by the shop and every other time I walk by it I hit it with kroil pentitrating oil for a week or so which will usually work for me. If that doesn't get me any results I get the torch out.

I have the same setup on a I-H 3 bottom that I converted to a two bottom years ago. I plow about 10 acers a year with it and never tripped it, I didn't even know they did trip.

SVcummins · Oct 12, 2021

Hook the chain behind the share run the chain under the tractor and hook the other end to a tree and back up slowly

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Tractorcedric · Oct 12, 2021

I don't know if this will help, but look at this parts drawing and then look inside the trip beam carrier to see if maybe one of these springs or parts have fallen out of place. Maybe 7,8,9,10,12 or 13

Ochs n · Oct 12, 2021

I had the same problem this fall at plow day. I used a tractor with a fork on the front and pushed at bottom of sheer. It flipped back and hooked. There were several rocks in the area so had to do that three times. It hasen't been flipped for a long time.

Northvale PA · Oct 12, 2021

I like the idea about the chain and tree and backing up. Grease or oil it. My JD plow tripped and the latch inside broke so just kept rolling back. I never did finish the last pull in that field. I do seem to remember the nuts being very difficult to loosen. I think I sliced thru them with my grinder. Then greased every zerk I found.

WESnIL · Oct 13, 2021

Repeated applications of your favorite penetrating oil, along with repeated heating as necessary and patience, will be your friend. BTDT. That is a fine thread bolt with a hole for a cotter pin. In my experience you will need to get the nut red hot and have the proper tools handy to turn the nut off promptly once the nut is red hot. Most likely the bolt and nut will be ruined in the process. Best of luck; that can be a challenging job.

Bret4207 · Oct 13, 2021

You need heat and some big wrenches and probably some cheaters on the wrenches. It's either badly galled and stuck, stuck from rust and dirt or there's something busted and blocking the trip from releasing. I'd bet all the nice red paint is covering decades of rust.

BarnyardEngineering · Oct 13, 2021

You're going to need better tools. A 2-ton jack will barely put out 1 ton of force, and it took way more than that to get the bottom to where it is.

What I would do is set a much larger jack (6 or 12 ton) on TOP of the plow beam, run the chain over the top of the jack and down under the bottom so you are putting the force on the plow and not just lifting the whole machine.

If you want this fixed any time soon, squirting penetrating oil on it is not going to help. It will take months if not years for the oil to get in anywhere it will do any good. You need heat.

Without access to an acetylene torch the next best thing would be one of those "weed burners" that runs off a big propane tank. I've successfully freed up several steering knuckles on running gears with the big weed burner. BTUs are the key. Just be warned it WILL damage the paint.

Paul Shuler · Oct 13, 2021

I had the same thought SV. I think I will run a chain under the tractor to the front end loader and give it some very gentle nudges with that. If that does not work I will be looking up a good tree to hook up to. I really like that plow and have only used it this one time and just dont want to break anything. I suspect replacement parts might be a challenge to find. I will continue to work on the bolt. But it will take a torch or grinder to get it out. I broke a 3/4 drive breaker bar on it with a long cheater.

caterpillar guy · Oct 13, 2021

Sounds like time to cut the nut off the pivot bolt so it will loosen up. Then put a new nut on with the bolt greased and the rest of it oiled up. then look at the other one at this time too. You might try an Inch drive wrench on it. If you break it cut it off.

OregonAaron · Oct 13, 2021

If you don't have a real torch set up to could always cut the nut off that pivot bolt with a cut off wheel on a grinder and pound out the rest of the bolt. I think you definitely need to have a look as to what is going on inside the frame. One of those other parts inside could be broken and preventing it from going back into place.

BarnyardEngineering · Oct 13, 2021

Paul, you are not going to break anything, and replacement parts are plentiful. Worst case there's a guy in Ohio who posts lots of ads in the photo ad section can set you up with parts. Steve Smith is his name.

Thomas(AB) · Oct 13, 2021

had the same problem on monday, took everything a big skid steer had to push back into place. but it did it. don't be afraid to heat and lots of pressure!. if it hadn't worked with the skid steer we were going to use my GVI to pull it. that's about 10k in weight and a pile of torque.

SVcummins · Oct 14, 2021

Put the Jack on top of the plow frame and then wrap the chain around the trip beam like you have and use the Jack to pull the beam up .

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