OT: Tire won't take air

W_B

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This is a tire on my '09 SUV. It had a slow leak and I was going to put some sealant in it. I took the valve out, tire was already flat, and attempted to pump in the sealant but it would not go in. Tried to put air in it but no dice. Seems like some sort of blockage, tried to blow it out but no luck either. A wire stuck in there only went in about 2 inches and stopped.

Could it be the TPMS unit blocking? Any suggestions to clear it? Otherwise it looks like a trip to the tire shop, I don't have equipment to take the tire off the rim to check it out.
 
Yes, it will have a TPMS sensor.

Some sensor manufacturers say not to use sealers, some sealer manufacturers say
their product is safe. I've never tried, but doesn't sound like a good idea.

When you took the core out, did all of it come out? Possibly it broke and the end
stayed in the stem.

If you can break the bead the sensor can be changed without taking the tire off.
But since it has a leak, might be best to just have the tire fixed and the core
problem repaired at the same time. If the sensor has to be replaced it will
probably need to be programed to the vehicle.
 
(quoted from post at 19:12:30 09/18/21) This is a tire on my '09 SUV. It had a slow leak and I was going to put some sealant in it. I took the valve out, tire was already flat, and attempted to pump in the sealant but it would not go in. Tried to put air in it but no dice. Seems like some sort of blockage, tried to blow it out but no luck either. A wire stuck in there only went in about 2 inches and stopped.

Could it be the TPMS unit blocking? Any suggestions to clear it? Otherwise it looks like a trip to the tire shop, I don't have equipment to take the tire off the rim to check it out.

It never ceases to amaze me what some folks will do vs. properly dealing with an issue.

I'm all for those who want to use tire sealants in the tires of old tractors or farm utility vehicles, but I can't imagine doing that with a newer on-road vehicle with TPMS sensors.

SERIOUSLY?
 
(quoted from post at 20:15:12 09/18/21)
(quoted from post at 19:12:30 09/18/21) This is a tire on my '09 SUV. It had a slow leak and I was going to put some sealant in it. I took the valve out, tire was already flat, and attempted to pump in the sealant but it would not go in. Tried to put air in it but no dice. Seems like some sort of blockage, tried to blow it out but no luck either. A wire stuck in there only went in about 2 inches and stopped.

Could it be the TPMS unit blocking? Any suggestions to clear it? Otherwise it looks like a trip to the tire shop, I don't have equipment to take the tire off the rim to check it out.

It never ceases to amaze me what some folks will do vs. properly dealing with an issue.

I'm all for those who want to use tire sealants in the tires of old tractors or farm utility vehicles, but I can't imagine doing that with a newer on-road vehicle with TPMS sensors.

SERIOUSLY?


Wore out, I take it that you are familiar with the OP's whole situation.
 
TPMS sensors typically have a very small orifice that isn't straight thru the valve. Also can usually replace the stem only which is much cheaper than the approx. $100 complete sensor...either as you said is a trip to the tire shop. Fred
 
My Chevy TPMS sensors are mounted on the end of the valve stems. There are holes at 90* to the stem to allow the air into the tire so a wire would not go thru. Can't explain why it won't air up, the stem is open to the tire like a standard stem without a TPMS. My 15 Malibu came from the factory without a spare. It had a 12 volt compressor and a can of Fix a Flat in the spare tire well.
 
My experience with Slime in bicycle tubes is it lasts about three years before it gets hard and plugs the Presta valve stems. At that point I replace the tube. Myself, I would not put Slime in a highway vehicle tire.

The last tubeless truck tire I had repaired only cost $12. I would air up the tire, drive the car to a tire shop and let them fix it properly. Hopefully the Slime you put in has not destroyed the TPMS sensor.
 
(quoted from post at 04:27:21 09/19/21) Wore out, I take it that you are familiar with the OP's whole situation.

What difference would knowing the OP's "whole situation" make? Are you implying that money may have been an issue? OP probably could have gotten the tire fixed for FREE at the shop that installed it. Most offer free lifetime repairs and bead sealing.

Now the TPMS needs to be replaced, which won't be free.
 
What a bunch of dinks. Who cares ? Is it your business?
Maybe he lives a long ways from town and needs the tire fo
hold air to get it fixed . Then barney says why not put the
spare on ? Maybe its flat or who knows or who cares ?
 
(quoted from post at 13:52:19 09/19/21) What a bunch of dinks. Who cares ? Is it your business?
Maybe he lives a long ways from town and needs the tire fo
hold air to get it fixed . Then barney says why not put the
spare on ? Maybe its flat or who knows or who cares ?

OP made it our business by asking.
 
yes.. sounds like the rubber is against the tpms hole and blocking it... jack it up to clear,, or pull forwards... pulling forward could possible pop the bead or other damage,, but unlikely.
 

Thanks to those with the useful comments. Might just put the spare on and take it in someplace.

Some more info: car not driven, needs brakes and not sure what else. This is a third car and is a backup to the backup car and that I'm actually saving as a parts car for another one year newer ('10) vehicle of the same make and model. The newer car has twice as much mileage as this one, but wife love the newer one (has way more features on it) and won't give it up. So if it blows up, the engine and trans comes out of this one and into "her" car. Don't want the rim sitting on the rubber so trying a temp fix. Did NOT get any Slime in the tire, wouldn't take any, or any air. TPMS has not worked in the 5 years or so I've owned the vehicle so no worries about "ruining" it in this tire. Not concerned with it working or not, just want tire to hold air.
Not a matter of money, just time to get it off and to a shop, none close however. Also injured my knee and it has exasperated arthritis in that knee, so limited in how much I can do in a day, the animals and maintenance around the farm have to come first and often get neglected.
 
(quoted from post at 19:25:08 09/20/21)
Thanks to those with the useful comments. Might just put the spare on and take it in someplace.

Some more info: car not driven, needs brakes and not sure what else. This is a third car and is a backup to the backup car and that I'm actually saving as a parts car for another one year newer ('10) vehicle of the same make and model. The newer car has twice as much mileage as this one, but wife love the newer one (has way more features on it) and won't give it up. So if it blows up, the engine and trans comes out of this one and into "her" car. Don't want the rim sitting on the rubber so trying a temp fix. Did NOT get any Slime in the tire, wouldn't take any, or any air. TPMS has not worked in the 5 years or so I've owned the vehicle so no worries about "ruining" it in this tire. Not concerned with it working or not, just want tire to hold air.
Not a matter of money, just time to get it off and to a shop, none close however. Also injured my knee and it has exasperated arthritis in that knee, so limited in how much I can do in a day, the animals and maintenance around the farm have to come first and often get neglected.


Good explanation of your situation. Don't worry about those "arm chair advisors." From what I have seen of some local advisors, the great work that they refer to is often what they plan to do, not what they have done.
 

With this new info, unless you have to keep moving it around, you could; jack it up so the tire is clear of the ground and block (not with concrete blocks) it up. That way the weight is off the tire/rim for now and you can deal with the tire at a later date, when convenient.
 
(quoted from post at 21:11:54 09/19/21)
(quoted from post at 13:52:19 09/19/21) What a bunch of dinks. Who cares ? Is it your business?
Maybe he lives a long ways from town and needs the tire fo
hold air to get it fixed . Then barney says why not put the
spare on ? Maybe its flat or who knows or who cares ?

OP made it our business by asking.

Exactly.
 
Junk Sensor and put a regular old fashioned stem in . It's just a back up vehicle so will not matter and can be checked visually for flat or soft. Solves a lot of problems cheaply.
 
(quoted from post at 19:25:08 09/20/21)
Thanks to those with the useful comments. Might just put the spare on and take it in someplace.

Some more info: car not driven, needs brakes and not sure what else. This is a third car and is a backup to the backup car and that I'm actually saving as a parts car for another one year newer ('10) vehicle of the same make and model. The newer car has twice as much mileage as this one, but wife love the newer one (has way more features on it) and won't give it up. So if it blows up, the engine and trans comes out of this one and into "her" car. Don't want the rim sitting on the rubber so trying a temp fix. Did NOT get any Slime in the tire, wouldn't take any, or any air. TPMS has not worked in the 5 years or so I've owned the vehicle so no worries about "ruining" it in this tire. Not concerned with it working or not, just want tire to hold air.
Not a matter of money, just time to get it off and to a shop, none close however. Also injured my knee and it has exasperated arthritis in that knee, so limited in how much I can do in a day, the animals and maintenance around the farm have to come first and often get neglected.

Find a nail or awl that will fit down in the valve stem, remove the valve core, stick the nail in, and give it a whack with a hammer.

If you're going to act like this is your daily driver, you're going to get answers like it's your daily driver. All you had to say is, "It's a junker and I don't care about the TPMS."
 

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