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It was an early IHC string tie baler maybe No 45 ?? I bought at an auction got it home it wouldn't tie maybe 1/5 of the time wife was
driving I sit on back hand tying the side that missed......Older neighbor stopped by saying/laughing OMG those wouldnt tie even when new
didnt you know that grrrrrrrrrrrrr I do now. Next one was JD 14T it tied yayyyyyyyyy then a 24T
John T
driving I sit on back hand tying the side that missed......Older neighbor stopped by saying/laughing OMG those wouldnt tie even when new
didnt you know that grrrrrrrrrrrrr I do now. Next one was JD 14T it tied yayyyyyyyyy then a 24T
John T
PS next worse was an old rope pull to lift New Idea sickle bar mowing machine (paid $35) that plugged every 10 ft or less grrrrrrrrrr That
was when I was a rookie didnt know enough to have a sharp blade,,,,,,new rock guards or at least new sharp ledger plates,,,,,,good hold down
clips and wear plates, proper timing, register and lead I LEARNED FAST Theres more but nuff for now lol
John T
was when I was a rookie didnt know enough to have a sharp blade,,,,,,new rock guards or at least new sharp ledger plates,,,,,,good hold down
clips and wear plates, proper timing, register and lead I LEARNED FAST Theres more but nuff for now lol
John T
coonie minnie
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Had an uncle that had an IH 45. I learned how to tie a square knot riding on the twine box. A neary, longtime IH mechanic- who's as loyal to IH as anyone- called the 45 a front seat in heII.
Mike(NEOhio)
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Dad's old NH crusher and my Ford 503 rake.
tomstractorsandtoys
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Fox Super D self propelled chopper with a three row wide corn head. I spent more time pulling corn out of that head by hand then feeding
it in. But the GM diesel engine sure did scream and it was fun to run the few times it worked. Sold it and bought a gas Fox with a two
row corn head and it worked much better untill we got in big corn. Tom
it in. But the GM diesel engine sure did scream and it was fun to run the few times it worked. Sold it and bought a gas Fox with a two
row corn head and it worked much better untill we got in big corn. Tom
We had a Ferguson baler that was a real POS. Never worked right from day one although my Dad wasn't
too good on fixing things or maintaining equipment which may have been part of the problem. I was
too young to know any different at the time.
Its funny the IH 45 is mentioned. The dealer loaned us one when the Ferguson was down one time. We
baled a couple thousand bales with it and I thought it was a pretty good baler compared to the
Ferguson. Never knew it had a bad reputation until I heard about it this site. There was allot of
them around here back in the day.
too good on fixing things or maintaining equipment which may have been part of the problem. I was
too young to know any different at the time.
Its funny the IH 45 is mentioned. The dealer loaned us one when the Ferguson was down one time. We
baled a couple thousand bales with it and I thought it was a pretty good baler compared to the
Ferguson. Never knew it had a bad reputation until I heard about it this site. There was allot of
them around here back in the day.
Bruce from Can.
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I had a 46 and later a 47 and they were excellent balers
Bruce from Can.
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- Woodville, Ontario, Canada
I had a Kubota bale wrapper that neither the dealer or I could
ever make work properly. I bought it new, and fought with it for
two years, then traded it off on a new inline wrapper.
ever make work properly. I bought it new, and fought with it for
two years, then traded it off on a new inline wrapper.
fixerupper
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The 635 corn head on our 105 Deere combine. Noisy, took too much power and hard to work on. The combine was OK though.
The worst was a brand now wrapped up into AGCO tractor. I don't mention specifically what it was for all the bad blood it
generated. It cost dad many thousands of dollars to fix with no end to the repairs in sight. One day it finally threw a rod and
that was that. We also had an Oliver 575 plow that the lemon pulled that could never find the right balance to keep the bottoms
from tripping a lot. Also, the plates where the cylinders mounted would break at the base. The White 271 disk even though rock
flex always had a bearing going out.
generated. It cost dad many thousands of dollars to fix with no end to the repairs in sight. One day it finally threw a rod and
that was that. We also had an Oliver 575 plow that the lemon pulled that could never find the right balance to keep the bottoms
from tripping a lot. Also, the plates where the cylinders mounted would break at the base. The White 271 disk even though rock
flex always had a bearing going out.
Copperhead don't play
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Mine was the hoe that that I had to how the garden with.
560Dennis
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Just about every used machine we got had, to redid. Have to say its the one I was using at the time. I think it took us about three years of learning
whats what before we could stop the disappointment.
All our fault .
The one that was probably the longest disappointment was the new idea 30a sickle bar mower. Thought that was going to be just a new stick and
rebush the crank pin. Turn out to be three years , that was a hell of a project. Regret that one
whats what before we could stop the disappointment.
All our fault .
The one that was probably the longest disappointment was the new idea 30a sickle bar mower. Thought that was going to be just a new stick and
rebush the crank pin. Turn out to be three years , that was a hell of a project. Regret that one
Dan in North Houston
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Funny, when I read the topic the old New Holland hay crimper immediately came to mind.
Bruce: You must just be a lucky guy! My Dad had such bad experiences with IH square baler that he wouldn't switch from Allis roto baler to ANY square baler until he was pretty much forced to. He had several rules that he passed along to me about haying. Number 1 was never ever buy an IH baler! Not sure if you knew Royce Lambert or not , but he was the local square baler knotter expert around the Woodville/Beaverton area, and a close friend of our family. I can remember him talking about the differences in IH knotters, not sure what it was but I know he had a negative opinion about the IH knotter as compared to NH etc.
Fritz Maurer
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Interesting that every time someone starts ripping
on IH balers, they always say , it doesnt tie. They
never say WHY it doesnt tie. If any baler with a
conventional knotter is out of adjustment, it wont tie
either. If anyone took the time to read the service
book , they might figure out whats wrong with it.
But its like Farm Shows Farmers Nominate Best
and Worst Buys. Once someone has a bad
experience with a piece of equipment, the
equipment is junk and the operator is never at fault.
on IH balers, they always say , it doesnt tie. They
never say WHY it doesnt tie. If any baler with a
conventional knotter is out of adjustment, it wont tie
either. If anyone took the time to read the service
book , they might figure out whats wrong with it.
But its like Farm Shows Farmers Nominate Best
and Worst Buys. Once someone has a bad
experience with a piece of equipment, the
equipment is junk and the operator is never at fault.
jon f mn
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My worst was a mud 800 swather. Cut slow, header wouldn't
float, just a nightmare to work on. Was decent as far as
breakdowns, but when you did need to repay our always had
to take half the machine apart to do it. Then the slow cutting
and every small rock knocked off a guard because it wouldn't
float. I was very glad to see that gone.
Worst for the family was actually dad's favorite tractor, a 730d
comfort king. That was the most gutless case tractor anyone
in the family ever owned. My little dc had more power. Just a
smoking gutless wonder. Dad overhauled the engine a couple
times trying to get it to pull. It wouldn't start if it was cold and
would gel if it did start. And dad liked it so we had to use it for
everything. Lol. Wasn't till dad passed and my nephew found
it, bought it, and overhauled the engine again that the issue
was found. Turned out the dampener pulley had turned so the
timing was off. Now it runs good. Lol
float, just a nightmare to work on. Was decent as far as
breakdowns, but when you did need to repay our always had
to take half the machine apart to do it. Then the slow cutting
and every small rock knocked off a guard because it wouldn't
float. I was very glad to see that gone.
Worst for the family was actually dad's favorite tractor, a 730d
comfort king. That was the most gutless case tractor anyone
in the family ever owned. My little dc had more power. Just a
smoking gutless wonder. Dad overhauled the engine a couple
times trying to get it to pull. It wouldn't start if it was cold and
would gel if it did start. And dad liked it so we had to use it for
everything. Lol. Wasn't till dad passed and my nephew found
it, bought it, and overhauled the engine again that the issue
was found. Turned out the dampener pulley had turned so the
timing was off. Now it runs good. Lol
For me personally it was an Allis-Chalmers 303 square baler. I am 95% certain it was me not knowing what the heck was wrong, but it would tie 10 perfect bales, miss 5 in a row, tie 5 perfect bales, then the strings would hang up on both bill hooks. There was no rime or reason why...replaced several parts that were also interchangeable with New Holland balers.
Got rid of it and bought a New Holland 575 baler. Only missed one bale with it in 4 years and it was my fault on the tie between twine boxes.
Got rid of it and bought a New Holland 575 baler. Only missed one bale with it in 4 years and it was my fault on the tie between twine boxes.
before internet usually bought most all equiptment from same dealer never done me wrong looking for small square baler as old one
was shot sold me a mf 12 with kicker looked like it was always barn kept no rust bought all books on it and scale to set knotters
never got to tie a bale for whole season finally replaced it keep it two more years trying finally sold it to a fergusen guy
telling him lots of luck
was shot sold me a mf 12 with kicker looked like it was always barn kept no rust bought all books on it and scale to set knotters
never got to tie a bale for whole season finally replaced it keep it two more years trying finally sold it to a fergusen guy
telling him lots of luck
oliver fan
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On that 575 plow, if you would have charged the accumulator with nitrogen, you would not of had any problem. With no cushion (nitrogen) in the plows hydraulic system, when you hit a stone something is going to break.
Goose
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Tossup between a John Deere 105 combine and an Oliver 70 tractor.
I always said I made two mistakes with that combine. The first was when I bought it and the second was when it got on fire I put the fire out.
The Oliver really wasn't a bad tractor, if you could ever get the dammed thing started. We routinely belted it up with a VAC Case to start it. The fuel and ignition systems had been gone through many times, and nothing ever changed.
I always said I made two mistakes with that combine. The first was when I bought it and the second was when it got on fire I put the fire out.
The Oliver really wasn't a bad tractor, if you could ever get the dammed thing started. We routinely belted it up with a VAC Case to start it. The fuel and ignition systems had been gone through many times, and nothing ever changed.
IH 886 tractor. Ran good, started good.
Mechanically a solid tractor. Dislikes
were the backwards doors, when in park, the
shifter is a trip Hazzard, and with the cab
being moved forward a bit on the 86 series,
I didn't like the ride. Longer I owned it
the more I disliked it. Sent it down the
road after 2 years.
Grey up on IH, but have no love for the 86
series
Mechanically a solid tractor. Dislikes
were the backwards doors, when in park, the
shifter is a trip Hazzard, and with the cab
being moved forward a bit on the 86 series,
I didn't like the ride. Longer I owned it
the more I disliked it. Sent it down the
road after 2 years.
Grey up on IH, but have no love for the 86
series
caterpillar guy
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Dad owned it I work on it till I finally quit on it. The steering was nothing short of a P poor set up. The neighbors Ih baler 40 something I had to ride and tie the one side all day. If it was a wee bit tough tied both sides. what a piece of sh . Never had much of a good opinion of an IH baler after that day.
Getting it charged was a problem as the dealers disappeared. Put the JD system on where you dial in the pressure. We had the book for the 575 and pretty sure it established an operating pressure. The Oliver/White SAR was the way to go but dad bought the 575 cheap.................. Not saying that Oliver/White was bad but they had their share of marginal products just like anybody else.
Northvale PA
Member
Ford 9n tractor. Bought a Ferguson TO-20 and sent the Ford down the road. Still working hard.
Texas Cowboy
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- Texas
John Deere 330 disc. We farmed about 1600 acres at the
time. Before we would start a trip across it we would get 10 to
12 bearings and might not have any left before we finished
one pass. I got to where I always wanted one bearing to go
out each day because it seemed like if you went a day without
changing a bearing the next day youd have to change 3 or 4.
Didnt run it 2 full seasons then sold it. Tony
time. Before we would start a trip across it we would get 10 to
12 bearings and might not have any left before we finished
one pass. I got to where I always wanted one bearing to go
out each day because it seemed like if you went a day without
changing a bearing the next day youd have to change 3 or 4.
Didnt run it 2 full seasons then sold it. Tony
rockyridgefarm
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Vermeer 605m. I bought it used and there was something wrong with it because it rolled belts constantly. I could not figure it out. Two dealers could not figure it out. I spent a lot of money on it, then I sold it for a big loss on a consignment sale. Its last SCREW YOU to me was to get a flat tire after I dropped it off at the sale site. I am sure that hurt its sale price. I hope the next guy was smarter than me and got lotsa use out of it.
Second place was a totally worn out John Deere 4010. Problem after problem. It was a hole in the field into which I poured money. Finally broke the rear differential and junked it.
Neither of those two pieces have a bad reputation, I just got bad ones.
560Dennis
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- Madison,Ohio
Interesting post ,head scratcher
560Dennis
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- Madison,Ohio
I did that very same thing one year with a 50 t ih,sat on the twine box, Dad said enough Im going fix it , by golly he did.
The timing was off , whoever had it before us didn't time the chain to the long auger shaft that ran that auger . In short out of time.
Fixed that and it never missed again . Went from hate to love instantly , that baler sat outside . But after that it start and bale every year .
The timing was off , whoever had it before us didn't time the chain to the long auger shaft that ran that auger . In short out of time.
Fixed that and it never missed again . Went from hate to love instantly , that baler sat outside . But after that it start and bale every year .
560Dennis
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- Madison,Ohio
50 t would not tie when we first got it . It was out out time ,forgotten which side. The timings were off due to the sprocket failed on previous owner. They dint time it correctly. We got it and finally discovered what it was .
Tied every bale after that for years, we abused it, left it outside in snow and rain ,didnt matter put in twine greased it and went to the hay fields and baled for years afterwards
Tied every bale after that for years, we abused it, left it outside in snow and rain ,didnt matter put in twine greased it and went to the hay fields and baled for years afterwards
John T said he had a old rope to lift mower. Dad needed a mower real bad and bought a Co-op mower with rope lift. Just keep the drum greased good and when come to a gopher mound jerk rope and instance action, cutter bar was up. Didn't think he was going to like it. Used it for a lot of years.
Fritz Maurer
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Thats the first positive thing I ever saw written about a 50-T. You guys chose to dive into it , rather than stand around whining about it. I know that occurred a long time ago, but here is my belated Well Done.
TomA in CA
Member
I never had a piece of farm
equipment I didn't love. Most of
my stuff was auction buys with no
paint left. Tried and true, used
and abused. I loved it anyway.
equipment I didn't love. Most of
my stuff was auction buys with no
paint left. Tried and true, used
and abused. I loved it anyway.
Dad got out of the Army in '46, bought a brand new H and 50T baler to do custom baling. He got to the point he was the Dealer's baler specialist, He baled enough the baler was almost worn-out when he moved onto the farm I grew up on fall of '51. I think the H was traded for a '47 M, Dad bought a brand new M that was delivered Christmas Eve '51, was a cold Christmas that year, Dad thought his Day old M should break-in running the feed grinder. Turns out the stock 6V system really wouldn't start an M worth a DANG, the '47 M started and ground cattle feed. The '51 M now has Char-Lynn P/S, M&W live hyd, M&W 4 Add P'wer sleeves & pistons, and the 12V alternator & 6V starter starts the M just fine!
If Dad had something he didn't like, it was probably his two IH #62 combines with Continental 69 cid engines, one to run, one to rob parts off of. His Deere R diesel was a disappointment, but it didn't stick around long, his 4010-D was a HUGE money pit. His '40 styled Deere B was bought to pull the manure spreader through the hog house, If you could get it started it would do that. I raked hay ONE time with it, never again! Dad paid $90 for it, I cleaned and repainted it, we had the paint & decals, put a mis-matched pair of better tires on the rear, it sold for $125 on Dad's auction.
If Dad had something he didn't like, it was probably his two IH #62 combines with Continental 69 cid engines, one to run, one to rob parts off of. His Deere R diesel was a disappointment, but it didn't stick around long, his 4010-D was a HUGE money pit. His '40 styled Deere B was bought to pull the manure spreader through the hog house, If you could get it started it would do that. I raked hay ONE time with it, never again! Dad paid $90 for it, I cleaned and repainted it, we had the paint & decals, put a mis-matched pair of better tires on the rear, it sold for $125 on Dad's auction.
Fritz Maurer
Well-known Member
New Idea 45G, on steel or rubber , one of the best
rakes of the 20th century. It will ted the hay while
the $4000 New Holland sits in the shed.
rakes of the 20th century. It will ted the hay while
the $4000 New Holland sits in the shed.
mudcreek183
Member
Dad bought a Ford 961 powermaster new from the day we got it the tractor need something repair on it.From the brakes head gasket the drive from the transmission to the rear broke at 50 hours raking hay.The last straw was when the timing gears broke at 150 hours still under warranty.The happiest day when it was traded for a NH baler.
BillinCentralMO
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She is in the other room.
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