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Saw this leaving Halifax this afternoon,MacKay Bridge
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We have a railroad trestle near us that is 10 feet, 10 inches high. It seems to me that about every other week, someone slams into the trestle. The clearance is clearly marked with signs beginning about a mile back from the trestle, in both directions, and yet, guys either don't pay attention to the signs or don't really know the height of their rigs. The roads department is regularly cleaning up refuse from the crashes.

Tom in TN
 
(quoted from post at 15:06:28 08/19/21) We have a railroad trestle near us that is 10 feet, 10 inches high. It seems to me that about every other week, someone slams into the trestle. The clearance is clearly marked with signs beginning about a mile back from the trestle, in both directions, and yet, guys either don't pay attention to the signs or don't really know the height of their rigs. The roads department is regularly cleaning up refuse from the crashes.

Tom in TN
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aybe it should be marked 3.3 meters, so the smaller number would get their attention?
 
I hope theres hefty fines.big expense cleaning up and repairing those types of senseless accidents
 
Philip, why would you call that an accident when clearly it is not?

Drivers should know the height of their vehicles, and should pay attention to markings telling them how tall they can be. This is clearly a case of negligence. NOT accidental!
 
jim
I have a boy and girl. I'm trying to figure if they was negligence or an accident. What's the difference???
I did take 2 chances on an Indiana blanket. Kids were the consolation prize. LOL
 
Somewhat similar to forgetting you left the trailer hitch in the receiver....as you back into a parallel parking space?????
Actually had/saw it happen one time at the same bridge, coming from the opposite way.
 
Jim I have posted this before but the story. A coworker's father drove truck from South Bend In. to (I think ) Texas. Left Sunday late or Monday early. Drove the same route from terminal to terminal changing trailers both ways. He got home one Friday and stuck the trailer under a bridge , the same bridge he cleared on Monday! Seems the highway had gotten a nice new layer of asphalt, just the lucky one to find that out. joe
 
Kinda cracks me up when folks talk this way about blunders like this. I can guarantee that each of us has done something equally as thoughtless if not as expensive. It's very easy to do, especially on small rural and city roads. There is so much to watch like traffic and pedestrians that you just don't have time to read signs. Then take into account normal human failures and this happens easily. I can also guarantee than no driver has hit that same bridge twice, and that it is incredibly rare for any drive to hit a bridge twice. So be careful about passing judgement lest ye be judged as harshly.
 
Jon,
I have senior moments. And they happen at an alarming rate the older I get.
Just don't remember the last one.
 
How about this. If you got the desired result, it was neither accident nor negligence. After all, I'm sure you wouldn't give either one of them back!
 
Ive definitely done things equally as bad and admit it was my own fault, hopefully the driver wasnt hurt from the sudden fetch up
 
(quoted from post at 12:59:56 08/19/21) Philip, why would you call that an accident when clearly it is not?

Drivers should know the height of their vehicles, and should pay attention to markings telling them how tall they can be. This is clearly a case of negligence. NOT accidental!
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jimg, if posting this makes you feel good you have my permission to start a thread on it everyday!!
 
I get a bit touchy about that one. 5 years ago, my girlfriend got hit head on by a tri-axle dump truck on her way to work. He was in her lane because he was going way too fast on a wet road and didn't make the curve. During the previous 2 week period, this driver was bragging on social media about how fast he drove his truck complete with a picture of the speedometer bouncing off the pin at over 80 miles per hour.

Calling something like this an 'accident' euphemizes it. That makes a judgement. Something like 'oh, it was just an accident' as if nobody did anything wrong and it is to be excused because it was only an accident. No blame, no responsibility, and no fault. But, there WAS!

I try to choose my words carefully. Once you make that excuse for the driver, that (at least partially) lets him off the hook so to speak.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but I have no pity for negligent drivers. Believe me, you would not want me as your safety director! As far as I am concerned, there is no such thing as an accident in a motor vehicle. As drivers we are expected to operate our vehicles safely and responsibly and maintain control at all times. With few exceptions, somebody is at fault in any collision.
 
By your criteria the young girl who didn't look and pulled out in front of my son on his motorcycle a few years back should then get the same treatment that the truck driver deserves? She never looked left and never slowed down coming out of the mall lot. Totally careless and totally to blame. Almost cost him his life and career. By your standards what should happen to her?
 
OK both kids know how to drive my tractors.
Boy wants the Jubilee. He likes mowing with my Kubota.
Enough tractors for you???

Look at how many post on Talk has nothing to do with tractors.
Any reason you decided to ask about tractors???
 
Jon, in our society, you can't just seriously injure somebody without consequences. Harsh though it may sound, people need to take responsibility for their negligence. Calling these things accidents (even though it nearly killed another person) implies that there was no fault involved. Should the girl walk away with no consequences for nearly killing another person?

Personally, I think that the punishment should fit the crime as well as the severity of the injuries. Some prison time should have been applied. Lest we forget, we are using 2-ton weapons as our transportation. They need to be handled responsibly.
 
Easy to say when you or yours is the victim, but what if you or yours was the negligent? "Oh he/she didn't mean to, it was an ACCIDENT!" I know how this works. Seen it many times. Always ready to swing the big stick, until that stick comes down on someone close to them.
 
(quoted from post at 14:06:28 08/19/21) We have a railroad trestle near us that is 10 feet, 10 inches high. It seems to me that about every other week, someone slams into the trestle. The clearance is clearly marked with signs beginning about a mile back from the trestle, in both directions, and yet, guys either don't pay attention to the signs or don't really know the height of their rigs. The roads department is regularly cleaning up refuse from the crashes.

Tom in TN
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You mention that despite the signs the trestle continues to get hit.

Sometimes it is very difficult to fix stupid.

I have been through many facilities with height restrictions that simply hang a board or chains over the roadway the same height as the upcoming structure, real simple the chains or the board rattle you know you are not going to fit when you reach the solid structure.

One would think something like this could save them from a bunch of clean up and repair work.
 
It was definitely unintentional and an accident, seems that the
driver would have chosen one of the higher sections but
unfortunately they didnt. Hopefully no one was hurt and
hopefully it doesnt ruin their driving record. I get called out for
my mistakes , always have and always accepted
responsibility Im sure the poor driver felt horrible
 
(quoted from post at 14:59:56 08/19/21) Philip, why would you call that an accident when clearly it is not?

Drivers should know the height of their vehicles, and should pay attention to markings telling them how tall they can be. This is clearly a case of negligence. NOT accidental!
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It is still an accident unless the driver meant to hit the bridge. There are only three kinds of actions - acts of God (nature); accidents; and intentional actions. Even those things that result from carelessness are clearly accidents. Not worth an argument, but not worth trying to bully someone over petty word usage either.
 
="Determined"](reply to post at 10:45:42 08/20/21)
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"I have been through many facilities with height restrictions that simply hang a board or chains over the roadway the same height as the upcoming structure, real simple the chains or the board rattle you know you are not going to fit when you reach the solid structure."

Must be some reason why I have never seen such devices on any public road.
I have only seen them at "facilities" i. e. Not on any public road.

??
 
(reply to post at 14:57:43 08/19/21)
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Due to the shortage of workers and especially drivers.....

Most likely the driver is a first generation immigrant.
Can only communicate and read their native language.
Had to have an interpreter to obtain license to drive, etc.
 
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