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Anyone out there still use wire tie bailers? In the late 50's Dad used a wire tie bailer he burrowed from a neighbor. It left a nasty piece of wire sticking up after being tied, and had to be careful handling the bales. Stan
 
When I was real young we had a wire-tie baler, but it occasionally left a small piece of wire in the bale, and the cattle would eat it. Got rid of it about 1956 and went to a JD twine, then about 65 we got one with a kicker, I baled a lot of small squares with that. After I left in 69 dad went to big round bales.
 
Chief,

Back in the 1950s one of my neighbors had a wire tie baler. It required that two people sat on the sides of the baler. Instead of a roll of wire, pre-cut pieces of wire sat in a container on the side of the baler. One guy put the new wire on a fixture that jammed through the bale to expose the two ends of the wire that would form the bale. The guy on the other side of the baler would grab the two ends of the wire and twist them together.

I got to be the twister guy a few times. It was a nasty, hot, dirty job. Fortunately, after a couple of years the guy sold his farm and the new owners discarded the baler.

Tom in TN
 
I still have an IH #55wire machine.Haven't used in years.But would not hesitate to hook on to should my good online blow up.My cousin at 8000 ft Gunnison CO uses a 10 year old JD348 wire. Puts up 5000 plus bales amnually.
 
(quoted from post at 13:32:58 08/17/21) When I was real young we had a wire-tie baler, but it occasionally left a small piece of wire in the bale, and the cattle would eat it./quote]

IIRC the 1st JD auto tie wire balers(models 114W & 116W) left short pieces of wire after wire wrapping was completed. Later model JD wire only left short pieces of wire if improperly adjusted. The JD 347 wire tie baler I sold last yr left no small pieces of wire on the bales
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I still use a JD 336 as well as an IH 445 wire tie balers. Although I only put up 300 - 400 small bales a year and the rest are large rounds. I like the wire because I never have trouble missing a tie, and I can cram a fair amount of hay into the wires. Mice don't appear to like the wire quite as much as twine.

Do use twine on the large rounds, but don't seem to have trouble with mice on them. Bob
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That type of baler and it was a John Deere is responsible for me being here now. Grandpa on Moms side had one and Dad hired on to help run it and that is how Dad met Mom, They were married in 1941 and I came along in 1943 and that grandpa died when I was one month old. In better days I had a pair of the 116W Deere balers,older and newer style. Took to some showes. One I baled a few bales with just to see how it worked and still being in my 50's I did not have enough strength to lift them. They were that heavy. That is one reason the wire balers left when twine became avaible as the twine balers did not make those real big heavy bales that older folks and women could not lift to handle those big wire tie bales. Our first baler was a New Holland 66 twine baler and bales at 36in length were only half as heavy as that Deere sindwinder 116W made and we shortenend then to 30in to make them lighter weight.
 
Growing up in my area almost all balers were wire tie. Most guys sold their hay and that is what buyers wanted, especially on the 3 tie balers. When plastic twine came out it changed everything as you could still get weight in a twine tie bale. I had a NH 280 wire tie. It left the little ends sticking up that would get you if you weren't careful. The last year I used it I had trouble getting good wire. International bales had a little loop on the top of the tie so you didn't get poked
 
In the mid 50s my dad bought one of the first, in our Hood, JD square wire balers. He did a lot of custom work and paid for the baler in 2 years.
We always wore gloves and Dealing with the way the wire was tied was just excepted.
He could make heavier bales with wire vs twine.
Then used wire was always a way to fix some things.
I was the youngest boy, so I always eat a lot of hay dust driving the tractor attached to the baler. Also got yelled at my brothers if I was gentle on the clutch.
 
I did that also. It was a stationary baler. When I was about 13. I poked the wires through a divider block between the bales. When the bale came out the divider bock was installed on a bracket, and the plunger pushed down for the next bale. If I pushed the wire on the wrong side of the divider it tied the divider block to the bale. Then every thing shut down. didn't make old people happy. Stan
 
I baled a lot of hay with a JD 116W baler and I don't remember any wire pieces being
left in the bales. When tying the 2 wires were twisted and the cutters cut and kinked
the wire to make a strong knot. Where do the pieces come from? We never had any
hardware problems with it. I did lose a couple cows over 45 years to hardware
chopping hay.

I rebuilt the tying mechanism in 1973. I went to the JD dealer and the parts guy
said give him some time and he would try to get the parts. They came from South
Dakota, Minnesota, and a couple other states. You did not bale the hay too wet
because the bales were too heavy. Actually I did once and the wires rusted off in the
center of the mow where the hay dropped from the forks. I pitched the few bales that
were involved down to the cows the next week or two, so no problem.
 
I think I added a link over to the other forum that was discussing wire balers a few days ago.
Yes the wire is still readily available at local co op for the family john deere 224 wire baler with v4 Wisconsin. Only ran 2,000 bales of orchard grass hay this year
Yes there are others in the area that run wire balers.
Yes new balers can still be ordered twine or wire.
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The baler that Grandpa had that Dad worked on was a John Deere pickup baler and at home they pulled it with a 37 john Deere G tractor. When they did custom baling the person they were baling for had to furnish the tractor to pull the baler. And to get to the other farms they pulled the baler behind a 35 Ford car.
 
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