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wingnuttx

wingnuttx

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Ive been thinking about asking a question about farming for awhile. Im oilfield trash and not a farmer remember. Ok. Im talking farming on a much bigger scale than house gardening. Bigger acreage. Say in the case your tractor is broken down and cant be fixed for several weeks for whatever reason. I know you guys can borrow equipment BUT has it ever occurred that you pulled an implement. Any implement .. with your 4x4 pickup in the field if conditions were dry enough. I said dont laugh now. Wingnut.
 
(quoted from post at 11:32:22 08/01/21) Ive been thinking about asking a question about farming for awhile. Im oilfield trash and not a farmer remember. Ok. Im talking farming on a much bigger scale than house gardening. Bigger acreage. Say in the case your tractor is broken down and cant be fixed for several weeks for whatever reason. I know you guys can borrow equipment BUT has it ever occurred that you pulled an implement. Any implement .. with your 4x4 pickup in the field if conditions were dry enough. I said dont laugh now. Wingnut.
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remember quite a few years ago somebody was doing custom hay harvesting with a bunch of Dodge diesel duallies. They could knock out a field pretty quick. Another thought: after WW2 Jeep was marketing their cj's with all kinds of farm implements.
 
In the old days yes smaller manual lift equipment now it is too big need hydraulics to run everything. Something for you to look at is thte old Willis jeep they had equipment made for them for farming.
 
a friend of mine used a pickup to pull a baler for a time. engine baler. I have seen some Freeman balers set up with a fifth wheel hitch used by some people in the Columbia basin area, pulled by pickups. Had electronic controls set up in cab of pickup.
 
I'd heard about a custom baler in California baling with square balers with engines on them pulled by pickups. They said they were
faster on the road, so travel time between jobs was reduced.

When my wife and I were in the MMPA Outstanding Dairy Couple contest back in 1990, one of the other wives was talking about loading
the kids in the pickup and using it to rake hay. I wasn't long ago that somebody else was telling me that they'd seen somebody
doing it.

A couple of guys I know, took a new Chevy half ton 4x4 out in the field and hooked on to a drag with it to see what it would do.
Chevy used to run ads showing one of their 4x4 pickups pulling a 4 bottom plow. I never had to stoop to trying anything like that
myself.
 
We still have a semi-close-knit neighborhood in that almost every farmer knows almost every other farmer in a 20 mile radius. If one farmer has trouble of any kind, illness, got stuck and all by himself, etc., He'll most likely get help from neighbor/s by the end of the day. As far as a tractor breaking down and several weeks to fix? Most farmers have several tractors that will do the job and some many more than that. One guy I know just buys a tractor for each piece of equipment. That way he doesn't waste any time hooking and unhooking.
 
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I friend has his 93 Dodge diesel with a switch in the cab and pulls a John Blue wheel driven sprayer with it a lot.
Not sure how he has it set up with the switch.
 
Now that you mention that, I've seen those little Geo Trackers pulling sprayers. I guess they were narrow enough to straddle the rows.
 
That would be the best reason to have a second tractor.

I'm not a farmer, but I do use tractors to mow lawns.

I kept my Jubilee when I bought the Kubota.

So I have a backup tractor.

I can trailer Farmall with mower if I had to.

Same with riding mowers, I have backups.

I have a car and truck. If one needs serviced or repaired, I have a backup transportation.

Most carry a spare tire, not a bad idea to have a spare tractor.
 
I have about 8 tractors to choose from, and there isnt much on my farm a pickup truck could do, except run for parts. Couldnt pull a wagon load of hay, and if it did pull a wagon load of hay, it would never be able to stop it. Couldnt likely pull the manure spreader empty, and doesnt have a pto or hydraulic necessary to operate the spreader if it could pull it.
 
Jeeps and Scouts were available with PTOs and I once saw a early style Scout at a show that had a 3-point hitch. Wish I'd got a picture of it as I drove Scouts for years.
 
All replies I am thankful for but this one I find so interesting. I should have thought my question out better knowing that some implements are too LARGE and HEAVY to accommodate being pulled by a 4x4 truck without a pto. But in some cases they can pull some implements in the field. I do know that most farmers have backup equipment but I still thought my question was worthy of a post. BTW. Not only am I a collector but I am up to growing about a 1-1/2 acreage garden at our place in La. onions, okra, potatoes, purple hull peas. Cabbage. Turnips. Snap beans. Etc. I use a Kubota L3200 and David Brown for garden and 4 John Deere vintage tractors Im working on currently. The 435 diesel being the only one about 99.9 % complete. I never owned a tractor until 2017 spring. I retired in 2015 Feb at 57 YO and found this to be a good fit for me. Before 2017 I always borrowed tractors. Best regards. Wingnut
 
Back in the 50's there were some people that used a jeep to pull a field chopper, of course chopper had an engine on it only saw it chopping hay.

Pete
 
Jeeps were used for tillage work but success was limited. My CJ5 has a PTO and I've used it for stationary work such as the bale elevator. But if I was making a living farming I'd keep 2-3 backup plans for every implement. Like others have said. Having good neighbors and availability to rent something on short notice are top of the list.

That neighbor relationship goes both ways. You got to be there for them too, even if you don't want to.
 
Well while the ALFUNCE or Ink -O-HOL back in like 75 i think it was myself and my one buddy and his brother and the one neighbor tried this . Cheve had a commercial with one of there K20 maybe a 30 pick up dragging a four bottom plow down thru a field , Welp Mike myself and Ronny all had 3/4 ton Ford F 250's 4x4's . Mikes truck had one of my barn yard 390 's in it , mine had a 428 super cobra jet that was a left over factory team engine , Ronny 's a slightly modified 360 and mike Brother Jim had a K 20 Chebby with A 400 small block 4 BBl. . Mine and Jim's were Automatics with mine being a built C6 and Jims was a stock 400 the rest were four gears . Ronny had the one field out by the road that he had just started to plow when he saw us all pull into the shop next door . and he came over . Some how we got talking about the Chevy commercial and a few more barley pops went down and more talk then Jim said MY TRUCK can do that easy . Well out back in the fence row sat a set of 4 bottom drag plows , in the back corner of the shop sat a Briggs and Stratton with a hyd pump a five gallon tank full and a two way valve and a few feet of hose . Then the back hoe was fired up and off to the fence row and out came the four bottoms and up to the shop , the tires even took air and all grease fitting took grease , to clean off years of rust off the moldboards the 9 inch grinder was put into service and Jim back up the pin was dropped and off to the field with one of us in the bed running the hyd. dirt started to fly . Going down the hill towards the swamp went pretty good it was the coming back up the grade that lest just say it got interesting , with 7.50x16 mud and snows and no posi the tires were shell we say ROTOTILLING more dirt then the plow was turning . Next up was Ronny's F 250 him like Mike and i had 1250x33x16.5 lets get down and dig tires plus a traction loc rear . Ronny had no problem in third low range as he Speed shifted from second to third , way to fast for moldboard plowing . Then Mike took a turn at it but he kept his speed down , then i hooked to it , by the time we were don playing we had that 12 acres plowed . Well ya got it plowed now it needs disced and dragging a 13.6 disc first pass was really rough on the suspension and anybody riding in the truck . For years in my Hobby farming i only had one tractor and relied on my 4x4 to get me pulled out when i got stuck , sometimes it would do the job with the addition of chains on all four wheels and extra weight in the bed , BUT every once in a while Ah yea NO ain't happen Got stuck one time that even with the help of another friend with a larger tractor with duals and a close neighbor with a bigger tractor then my one friend had and my pick up she was not COMING OUT and to get it out required a bull dozer with a 60000lb winch and a snatch block straight line pull did nothing but break and 1 1/8 cable . Yea someone will say well why didn't ya get a big wrecker in , welp there was NOWAY to get a wrecker back in . To get the dozer back in from where i could unload i have to wade thru the creek with water up to the floor plates , The wheel tractors could come in from the back side thru the old strip cuts and up over the spoil banks of the old strip mines as they could not cross the covered bridge .
 
my father in law had an early 60's 4wd International pickup with a PTO that he used to pull a feeder wagon through the muddy feed lots.

Pulling a tillage tool a pickup would not last long. I don't know if the tranny or the engine would give up first but a pickup is not designed to do hard pulling. An implement small enough for a pickup to handle like a 14" disk requires quite a short turning radius on the ends for the return trip down the field. A pickup would not turn that short. Not saying it will not work but the end rows would need to be quite wide.
 
I'm surprised nobody put this Chevy commercial one on yet---
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They tried a Ford--but the hitch on the plow wouldn't hold all that power!!!
 
I followed a Jeep CJ5 type pulling a full gravity box on a two lane pavement near town.....at 3-4 MPH...the wagon was dragging that Jeep all over his lane. There wasn't much grade from the field to the road, so it was able to get the load "on the road"! Leo
 
I followed a Jeep CJ5 type pulling a full gravity box on a two lane pavement near town.....at 3-4 MPH...the wagon was dragging that Jeep all over his lane. There wasn't much grade from the field to the road, so it was able to get the load "on the road"! Leo
 
Correct, I've seen this ad posted on here a few times now. Chevy didn't put a 454 in a four-wheel drive pickup until I think 1983 or 1984.
Chevy did use 400 small blocks in that time period. I had one in a 1978.
 
Back in the 1970 (I think) Chevy ran a tv commercial showing a Chevy pulling a 4 bottom plow. Might have only been 3 but I think it was 4.
 
WHY ? I know of a 1973 and 1974 2 wheel drive that had the 454 engines in them . I remember this add in a farm magazine it did say in there it was a special equipped and weighted .
 
db4600. Now you have a collectible there sir. That I think is the first of its kind that Ive seen. Im assuming shes a typical Ford 4 cylinder? Thank you for posting. Wingnut
 
Never really knew what engine they ran , BUt WHAT MYSELF AND THREE FRIEND DID WAS ABOUT THE SAME but NOR ON A POOL TABLE FLAT FIELD , AND LIKE WE USE SAY BACK THEN , inft. of ever Stuck Chebby you would find a Ford dragging it out . we did the 4 bottom thing with three Fords and ONE Chebby but not a 454 but a 400 and going down the hill it was fine , it was the coming back up that got it , BUT here tire size and lack of a posi rear came into play . My 73 F250 was the only one with and engine size over 400 Cu. In. the other two one was a slightly mod 360 and the other was one of my Barnyard 390 creations Tires and posi rears were key , the only extra weight added was the little Hyd Power unit some idiot setting in the bed tryen to hang into his beer while running the hyd.'s How fast could we pull them a whole lot faster then one would ever think about plowing , the 360 Ford was NOT having any problems in third Low range , the 390 powered one had NO problem in 2 High range at about 2500 RPM and half pedal and not even into the four BBl my 428 with the C 6 about 1/4 pedal in low high range at about 10 MPH. NOW discing a fresh plowed field that is another thing , lets just say that you will SPILL a lot of barley pop.
 
A lot of folks use their 4wheeler,side by side A tv to pull hay rakes,pasture drags,driveway/arena groomers,mowers....Just yesterday I saw a 4wjeeler pulling a one row horse cultivate through a field of hemp.Neighbor lady uses her Subaru car to pull a pasture drag.
 
That is why most of use have way more tractors than our wives think we should have - we are prepared for such an emergency. LOL
 
I believe it would be cheaper to buy a used tractor than wear out a 50,000.00 truck. A truck isn't really designed for that kind of stress.
 
That's why the 454 introduction was delayed across the line.
Car and light truck rear axles would not hold up.
 
I've heard of a couple people using their pickup on a hay rake. Then there's this guy:

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And people laugh when I say Cayennes are top dog SUV's.


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They ain't no punk.


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Yes, that's an Airbus.

If it wasn't for the horrendous fees just to have it looked at in a Porsche service department, I'd have one.... maybe two. But.... between the two shops I asked around at, you're looking at $2000 just to have it looked at. Even if there's nothing wrong.... $2000.

I'll pass on all that!

Mike
 
They dont like the dust and the slow speeds, but as others have pictured, it does happen now and then to get the old truck or suv out there for a little job in a pinch.

In general we like to have a back up tractor or a neighbor we work with that we can get the job done when needed. Might not have air or enough power in the backup tractor but it works enough to get a job done.

I now have a TW20 and a 8970 tractor for big jobs.

A 5000 and a 7700 for medium jobs.

A 1720 and several old gAs tractors for little jobs.

Get er done.

Paul
 
I remember that commercial...I'll bet the bed of that 76 Chevy 4x4 had a bunch of weights in it...In my area it takes about 8000-9000 lbs to pull a 4 bottom plow..I bought a brand new 1976 Chevy 4x4 with a 350 and automatic...In Sept 1976 it was $6,076.00 with a horse bumper..3 bottoms would have been enough for it..(grin)

I've got a 1974 Chevy C-30 4x2 dually sitting in the yard with a 454-auto that needs a new home.It turns over but no fire.
 
I used my 76 ford 150 4wd with a 300 six to disk down corn stalks to put up electric fence one fall. just used a rachet jack to put it up and down. The farm we were fencing was quite a ways from home. It worked good enough.
 
I pulled a 6 foot spring harrow with my Toyota 4wd pickup when I was living down in the mtns and doing a sports field for that actress lady that was in Aliens and Ghost Busters. Low range 2nd gear IIRC. Worked fine, but it wasn't a huge field, maybe 2 1/2, 3 acres. I've also used a Willys CJ5 to tow a small disc, maybe 6 foot, but you couldn't put much angle in it at all.
 
If you count truck-like vehicles the list would also include two Jeeps, a Land Rover, and two Mercedes-Benz Unimogs. Out of all of these the Unimogs were by far the most successful in the farm tractor role which is understandable since this was their original design intent. Even though they perform well as a tractor it is a concept that never caught on in this country.
 
Does pulling a 500 bushel wagon count? No plates, no extra insurance and no DOT! I do have to turn the tuner a few clicks to get the 7.3 to come alive.
 
Paul. Im thinking you got the cat by the tail as far as back up is concerned. I figured you are all well known in the farming community that any planting or tillage is only delayed a day or so should you have your own breakdown of the tractor you intended on using. I sincerely wish you and yours a successful planting and/or harvesting effort. Wingnut
 
Yikes AMF. Maybe thats why I dont see many around here but in Houston there seems to be more. I have better uses for that check up charge too. Thanks for posting. Wingnut
 
BIGTEE. I caught your last thought and you could not be more right. Thank you for the photo. Thats what you farmers need for a truck anyway. Something useful. Wingnut
 
I think we might find that many many deer plots are sprayed, dragged, seeded, and drag covered by 4x4 pickups. Small areas for sure, and not deep tillage, but able to get the new crop seeded and growing.
 
The older style ignition switches will turn the starter over, but not send current to the distributor when they're bad. BTDT. At least on a 95, that is.
 

Pulled a few wagons loading hay with a pickup but that about it
Some years ago I was baling hay and my brother was planting so I didn't have a tractor to pull the rake, end up hooking our bar rake to my Honda 4 wheeler and raked about 5 acres with it.
 
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