Brake pad thoughts?

Olliejunkie

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Is it worth spending extra money for ceramic? I dont brake hard so doubt full that I will overheat and warp rotors although I do live in the hills so lots of constant braking. I have almost always ran cheap semi metallic.
 
(quoted from post at 12:35:29 07/27/21) Is it worth spending extra money for ceramic? I dont brake hard so doubt full that I will overheat and warp rotors although I do live in the hills so lots of constant braking. I have almost always ran cheap semi metallic.
mostly stick with the type that came with the vehicle when new. That's usually ceramic.
 
The only reason for anyone who drives normal to use ceramic pads
is they dont rust up the wheels. Mountains and heavy towing you
might be better off with ceramics
 
Other than ceramics are cleaner and might last longer I think it's either the pads
last longer and grind more off rotor or rotor lasts longer and replace pads more
often.
Just my opinion. I use OEM pads.
 
Just put ceramic pads on my F150 and Nissan Xterra. Very smooth positive stops. However I have seen some experts recommend semi metallic for
hauling and towing applications.
 
Don't buy the cheapest pads; when they get extremely hot, what they're bonded together with melts, justt nough to make a barely noticeable 'bump' on
the rotor. This makes you think it's warped the rotor as your pedal will pulsate. Warped rorors are a rarity, even 50 years ago. I KNOW this is true
as my Ford Taurus had what I THOUGHT were warped rotors; new ones at that time were $20.00 each, so I rplaced them rather than trying to find a shop
that would turn them down. A month later, it was doing the same thing. Asked a friend of mine who's a mechanic and that's what he told me. Paid extra
for ceramic pads and they 'cleaned' up the rotors.
 
Go to rock auto online and order the Raybestos EHT Enhanced Hybrid Technology pads for your vehicle. It will save you money unless you need them now.

The EHT pads stop like severe heavy duty towing semi metallic pads and have no dust. I tried Wagners and other brands of severe heavy duty towing semi metallic pads and the Raybestos EHT Enhanced Hybrid Technology pads beat them all that I have tried.

I was surprised as I thought they would make no difference but I talked to the tech at raybestos and he was towing like I was and said he would offer a full refund for any reason if I did not like the pads.

I had to call back and thank him for his help.
 
I just did the fronts on my sons Navigator, and yea, they were
ceramic. On the same note, theres no way Id put asbestos
on my 71 Cougar, even if I did find an old NOS set.
 
The counter man at OREILLY'S was a shop manager for an import car garage. He put ceramics on his truck and it was a huge disappointment, when he had his trailer on the truck. The cheapest pads available are in my opinion, terrible, but, the most expensive are not always going to be the best either.
 
Thank you for all the comments. Thought it might be a interesting topic as I haven't seen it here. Looks like oem is organic. I think ceramic would be a better option for my use. Main reason I'm looking is I need to change my tire pressure monitors still so it's a good time to replace pads. I have heard some squeaking. If I don't need them yet I will have them on hand.
 
(quoted from post at 17:10:46 07/27/21) Thank you for all the comments. Thought it might be a interesting topic as I haven't seen it here. Looks like oem is organic. I think ceramic would be a better option for my use. Main reason I'm looking is I need to change my tire pressure monitors still so it's a good time to replace pads. I have heard some squeaking. If I don't need them yet I will have them on hand.
f you're changing pads, you might as well put new rotors on too.
 

The manufacture Taylors the components for the application I use what the manufacture recommends. The components include the brake rotors and calipers. I have read mixing different brake material can affect the rotors. I have also read larger calipers are used for ceramic, using metallic pads will be to aggressive on a ceramic application.
 

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With all due respect, sir, but I heartily disagree.

I have been a mechanic since I was a teenager. I have replaced many brakes. What I CAN tell you is that warped rotors are VERY common. I also have a brake lathe, so I can tell you when I put up a set of rotors to turn, they are FOR SURE warped!

You may as well have said that the moon is made of green cheese.
 
Personally, I think it is worth spending the money for ceramics. They don't generate all of the dust that turns
your wheels black and in general they stop you better.

Bear in mind that if you put ceramics on, they will work best on a fresh rotor surface. Either have them turned or
replace them would be my advice. Then break them in gently for the first couple of weeks.
 
Years ago when ceramic pads came out shop thought that they would be good for me as I was doing a lot of stop and go driving on a rural newspaper route and wearing pads fast. Put the ceramic pads and new rotors on and did not last half as long as orignal type and destroyed the new rotors as well. I don't think they ever instaled a set of ceramic pads after the fieasco those ceramic pads caused.
 
I don't see how cast iron warps since it is a fairly stable metal to begin with. As for disc brakes I have more one sided wear from stuck calipers than anything and hate disc brakes. Drums work better for me with less maintenance. Put one set of shoes on in 200,000 miles and changed a few sets of those foolish pads on the same vehicle. Semi went 700,000 on the first set of shoes first 3 years was driving Chicago traffic from Detroit to Halstead street exit off I-80. I used to run about 150,000 miles a year back then. Containers had notoriously poor brakes on them. So truck did most of the work stopping then. OTR work I run over most all of the western mountains even on a lot of the old 2 lanes out there like across US-12 and up US-95 from down by Payette Id to Lewiston or I-90. Lots of hills and steep grades in CO too. Like over La Veta pass on US-160 from Walsenburg to Fort Garland. West is easier than east there.
 

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