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'53 International wheels? Please educate me...

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MeAnthony

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I've not been around anything this old and not familiar with these wheels. Aren't these one of those split rim death machine things? And I'm guessing that crack isn't good. Both front wheels are like this, haven't checked the rear duals yet. What are my options to use a different style wheel? Is there any kind of one-piece steel wheel that would bolt on? How expensive? Tire sizes are 8.50/20s front, 9.00/20s rear.

Thank you!
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I should clarify... the crack goes from the slot for the valve stem all the way across the wide face of the rim.
 
Made that way. Thats how the ring is took off. There is a 22.5 rim that fits that style hub but do not know if will fit that far back
 
That crack is there by design, it allows the rim to collapse in order to get the outer ring off and then the tire. If it is a 20 rim a 22.5' rim and tubeless tire can be mounted on the existing hub. The best thing for that rim is to deflate the tire, remove the rim and tire and scrap the assembly.
 
Those are not the death wheels. As long as the lock ring is seated as it should be they are safe.

Still use caution airing one up, put it in a cage and use a clip on chuck and get away!

Be nice to find a replacement wheel for the cracked one, but it could probably be brazed or welded, tire off of course.

If you do find a replacement be absolutely sure the lock ring is for that exact same wheel. Miss matching lock rings is certain failure!

One thing about those wheels, when installing the lug cleats, you have to turn and center the wheel as the lugs are snugged down. Otherwise it will wobble something terrible!
 
Yes it was made that way and no I would never work one. And as stated you want to replace the rims with 22.5. Lots of used tires out there, and new ones are sold at any truck tire dealer.
 
Yes, come to think of it.

Been many years since I've dealt with those.

Had one blow off in the driveway of my dads service station. Customer had just bought new tires at Montgomery Wards. He noticed they were looking low, so he squatted down and aired the fronts up. The instant he stood up and stepped away one blew off!

It flattened an Anco wiper display box against the wall. Would have been sure death if he had been there 1/2 second longer!

Come to find out there were 2 different brands or styles of wheels on the truck, the tire shop had mixed up the lock rings on the wheels.
 
I would just replace the tire when worn out. I've worked on splits for 50 years now. Don't bother me to do them.I do look at the condition of them as I work on them. We have several of them still on wagons around here and get new tires as they wear out. Yes a 22.5 rim will go on that hub if you're that worried about the rim. Like was said you do need to use a block beside the tire tread and spin as you tighten up to get straight. Tires last longer that way. Easiest is to draw up 3in a trianlge spin then adjust with the other 3 and tighten them a bit more then draw up the first 3 and so on till tight. Spinning as you go. If it gets off they will need to be loosened up some and tighten the one that is out to pull it back inline you see as you go. Worst thing it an impact to do this with as it is tightened to fast on one then has to be loosened to correct. When you take it off leave the nuts on some and hit the rim to knock the wedges loose. Sometimes they will fly quite a away reason for leaving the nuts on. I've seen them fly 20-30 feet and some times just drop off.
 

There are split rims and then there are lock ring rims. Those are lock ring type. There are dozens of sites and videos explaining the difference and also dozens showing how to upgrade to a modern wheel.
 
There is one split rim that comes apart sort of like an Oreo cookie, in the center. Those are the widow makers, you cant see if you got them together right.

All the other styles have a ring to 4 on the edge under a bead, such as yours, and are easy to see if they are damaged or fit right. They take a little care but are fine to use and no issue. Your type does look odd with that seam across them, but that is how they are designed.

Paul
 
Try a scrap yard. Our local one saves all the tires when someone scraps a truck. Can get some dang nice 22/5s with the air already in them for $50/ea.
 
Late to reply. When I was young I bought a 1944 Fruehauf trailer that had 8 of those style rims. My 2 tire shops that I used for truck tires neither one would mount tires on those rims. I ended up buying used lock ring rims. This was about 1980.
 
(quoted from post at 21:50:52 06/27/21) It is as designed. The Crack can be seen in this one for sale. Caution and careful assembly then air up in a cage. Jim
One for sale
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Jim, are you saying the crack was designed in there? Not sure how they would manufacture a squiggly crack like that. I think the ebay seller is selling junk.
 
Open center 22.5" fit in place of the 20" tube type rims. Different rim widths are available to match tire sizes.

Its not a crack in the OP's photo, or a junk rim from an eBay seller. A one piece lock ring with split from valve stem slot across the body of the rim is an obsolete rim design.

Some info borrowed from the web on these and the solid rim; solid ring-RH, 5degree rims (the two halves separate in the center of the rim). Both are considered obsolete and best to be replaced.

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Some more info on servicing different type rims:
https://issuu.com/crowlinc/docs/3421-wheel-chart-booklet/12
 
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