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What isn't made in China

Geo-TH,In

Geo-TH,In

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Is this made in China or exported to
China.
GM owns Delco unless it's been sold.
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Had an 01 Silverado, the original water pump went out. Went through 3 aftermarkets, all failed shortly, each in a different way.

Disgusted, I paid the price for a Delco brand. That fixed the problem, but right there on the pump casting... 'CHINA'
 
The castings on my 2006 John Deere planter all say Made in China on them. We have a local foundry that used to make cast wheel centers for John Deere but I don't know if they make them anymore. Might be made in China. John Deere smaller E series tractors are made in Pune, India.
 
You guys complain constantly about things being made in China, It's the choice of big businesses to make or source things there. They do it to make more profits, which you also defend. Then you don't want to tax any of those profits to improve infrastructure that would benefit all of us. Make up your minds!
 
Do you remember when made in Japan meant JUNK?
Made in China used to mean Junk.
I think like Japan, China now makes quality items
 
I think china will make what someone wants - if they want cheap they make junk. If someone wants quality they can do that too but it costs more. The perception by companies is everyone wants cheap and complain about it later when later when the cheap one fails. I just put a head gasket on my Super C that says made in China. We'll see how that works out.
 
Things made in china are made to certain specifications. I read where the cheap brands of power tools were made in the same factory that made our historic US brands like Craftsman, DeWalt ect. Just made to a higher quality. I know someone that owns a foundry, he says Chinese steel is good quality.
 
Teacher 50+ years ago said everything is politics and politics is everything.
So true today as it was back then.
Are boarders still closed to people and goods?
 
I wish jm was on here today. He was telling about being over there on a tour. Said they make three grades of products. A good one that they use themselves, a mid grade, and the cheap junk made to specs that the American companies order.
 
Borders are closed to people. Special workers ,healthcare workers can cross back and forth , considered essential workers. Goods have always flowed back and forth , transport trucks have been able to continue trucking good to and from Canada and the USA. The Canadian government is looking at July 21 to open the borders to all travel.
 
That plant tour and speech by the plant manager was one of the sobering days of my life. I decided right then everything out government tells up was not exactly true. I am convinced they may have just as good of manufacturing as here in the us.
 
The problem isn't China. It is the American consumer.
If all the consumer wants is cheap, cheap and cheaper that's what you get.
I live near a Harbor Fright and drive by there some times. The place us always busy with people buying their cheap junk.
You can buy a mini lathe there for a couple hundred bucks. They have plastic gears in them that strip out and motors that crap out.
Why buy the stuff if you know it's gonna crap out? And there is no parts support for them.
It makes me dizzy sometimes how stupid the American consumer is.
 
Glad you jumped in Jerry. It's always best to get it straight from the horses mouth. The Chinese government isn't making this stuff then air dropping it on us to ruin us. American companies are ordering this junk because it's profitable. Then we get brainwashed in to condemning the Chinese and defending the ones we should be condemning instead.
 
(quoted from post at 14:39:15 06/27/21) That plant tour and speech by the plant manager was one of the sobering days of my life. I decided right then everything out government tells up was not exactly true. I am convinced they may have just as good of manufacturing as here in the us.
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Many times when a USA manufacturer decides to close a plant, they pack up the machinery and ship it overseas.
Easy peezy, all they need is a building to set it up in.
 
Not nessarly price! May be ONLY place the tiems are avaible. I have found that out. Also I have found there power tolls last just as good as the name brands. Before Sears went out there was Sears, Menards, Lowe's, and Freight to but tools and some of the items needed were only avaible at Freight. What was my home town has only Lowe's.
 
Well said and true, the guys exact words that day was, we make what the customer wants he held up three diffrent black iron t plumbing fittings. First on made for domestic use, second one for normal export and third one for USA company. As he placed them down he recorded the weight of each and you guessed it just not as much iron in the one going to USA..
 
Remember that one time we tried to put a stop to as much junk coming from China with tariffs ?

I remember farmers being back on welfare. How'd that work out for you? Did it make you proud?
 
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(quoted from post at 14:39:15 06/27/21) That plant tour and speech by the plant manager was one of the sobering days of my life. I decided right then everything out government tells up was not exactly true. I am convinced they may have just as good of manufacturing as here in the us.
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Many times when a USA manufacturer decides to close a plant, they pack up the machinery and ship it overseas.
Easy peezy, all they need is a building to set it up in.
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'm sure that works in some places, but China doesn't allow used manufacturing equipment to enter their country.
 
I would generally agree with you. They have the capability to do a lot of things well. They've become very adept at reverse engineering a lot of stuff and building good copies. What they're mabey not so good at yet it developing new technology or things that they can't get their hands on to copy. Read a few weeks ago how their jet engines are still basically junk in terms of service life... and that is one area where obviously the us gov or Northrop doesn't just hand that over to them... so they have a ways to go yet. But they will get there. What is impressive to watch is just how industrious they are, how hard they work and how they reuse, repurpose, salvage etc so much stuff that we just throw away. It's not hard to see why they have moved so far ahead, so quickly and here we are throwing it all away.
The problem we suffer here is that the consumer demands cheap and they get cheap and our society is addicted to that way of life.

Rod
 
Yes...then we learned that we had no short term ability to make it here...like computer chips for new vehicles. Totally misunderstood the complexity and time delays of mass production. Quick lesson: Don't punch your landlord in the mouth, until you have a new place to live.
 
Short term profits. Make a quick quarterly profit, bump the stock price, sell my stock options, get rich.
All too complex an idea for the voter that can not balance his own check book to understand..
The short term (quarterly) focus of the stock market may eventually kill America. That is not what free enterprise is about.
 
You might want to google which party supports free trade. You might learn something.
Mommy I made a mess....but give me a cookie because I will clean up the mess I made.
 
It must have you were always taking about trying to get money from nnalert for your cattle I never did .
 
George, are you assuming the non-English labeling indicates country of origin? Sorry to disappoint you, but the second line is in Korean:
<a href=https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ko&text=oil%20filter&op=translate>https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ko&text=oil%20filter&op=translate</a>

And the third line is Japanese, using the katakana phonetic alphabet:
<a href=https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ja&text=oil%20filter&op=translate>https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=ja&text=oil%20filter&op=translate</a>

Was the filter actually made in China? Very possibly, but unless it's labeled as such I would assume it's from the good ole USA. Or maybe from one of our neighbors to the north or south.
 
As for Delco, it's a brand, not a company. When GM spun off its component suppliers as Delphi, it retained the Delco brand name. The brand is used on parts made by dozens (probably hundreds) of different suppliers.

You might ask, 'why label in only English, Korean and Japanese? Why not Chinese?' Well, the parts are labeled for the countries in which they might be sold. Either that particular filter isn't used in China, or (more likely) filters for the Chinese market are made exclusively in China. Note that your filter wouldn't have gone to Canada or Mexico, either, since French and Spanish labels would be required. Delco filters for those markets are probably sourced from local manufacturers.
 
(quoted from post at 15:35:03 06/27/21) The problem isn't China. It is the American consumer.
If all the consumer wants is cheap, cheap and cheaper that's what you get.
I live near a Harbor Fright and drive by there some times. The place us always busy with people buying their cheap junk.
You can buy a mini lathe there for a couple hundred bucks. They have plastic gears in them that strip out and motors that crap out.
Why buy the stuff if you know it's gonna crap out? And there is no parts support for them.
It makes me dizzy sometimes how stupid the American consumer is.
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2 sides to that story. HF and others provide tools at an affordable cost that US companies won't or can't do. I have a HF 3 jaw hydraulic gear puller. I think I paid $85 or so bucks for it. A US made tool would have been 10X that much, which is way, way beyond what I could possibly justify. It's a complicated ball of worms. We need products that US concerns won't make at an affordable price because they'd lose $$$ that they need to stay in business and pay the outrageous costs they have to contend with here. Why does it cost so much here? Taxes, taxes, taxes, regulations, healthcare, union demands, labor costs, taxes, regulations, etc. In China the gov't owns or controls the means of production, they don't cut their own throat. There are no unrealistic labor costs there, or environmental costs. In short, they compete better than we do and they don't pretend to give a crap about CO2, trees, the welfare class, etc.

It's going to stay like this, and get worse, until we make some radical changes.
 
(quoted from post at 12:13:13 06/27/21) You guys complain constantly about things being made in China, It's the choice of big businesses to make or source things there. They do it to make more profits, which you also defend. Then you don't want to tax any of those profits to improve infrastructure that would benefit all of us. Make up your minds!
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Read my other post on complicated cans of worms. No one has ever said they don't believe there should be any taxes on corporate profits. What has been said is that too high taxation results in the corps leaving the US. And currently there are no plans to improve our infrastructure, only to move the socialist agenda forward!
 
(quoted from post at 09:22:20 06/28/21)
(quoted from post at 12:13:13 06/27/21) You guys complain constantly about things being made in China, It's the choice of big businesses to make or source things there. They do it to make more profits, which you also defend. Then you don't want to tax any of those profits to improve infrastructure that would benefit all of us. Make up your minds!
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Read my other post on complicated cans of worms. No one has ever said they don't believe there should be any taxes on corporate profits. What has been said is that too high taxation results in the corps leaving the US. And currently there are no plans to improve our infrastructure, only to move the socialist agenda forward!
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square hit on the nail head!
Just remembering the 'ol days, when Ford plant was in Dallas &amp; the cars had a sticker on window proclaiming, "Made in Texas by Texans!". Still have a few of Dad's paycheck stubs from there.

This post was edited by JMOR on 06/28/2021 at 08:34 am.
 
You were the one trying to get money for you cattle on the flue so does that make you proud ? Ive never got a dime for anything
 
The yt department of manufacturing will tell you every thing comes out of one plant made in China and its all the same so it doesnt matter anyway
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175$ for a China ujoint
 
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