Chain Boomers

Gary Mitchell · Jun 26, 2021

Just a quick question: The other evening I heard a guy mention that the old style break-over boomers were no longer legal in MO. This is news to me. Have I stayed at home too much and missed something the past few years? (thanks in advance) gm

fastfarmall · Jun 26, 2021

I had not heard that, if you tied the handle with a little wire, they wern't going anywhere!

markct · Jun 26, 2021

As far as I know still legal everywhere, but you do have to secure the handle to be legal and considered secure

old · Jun 26, 2021

I've never heard of such and I am in MO but have not been doing much as for hauling stuff any more

504 · Jun 26, 2021

There are a lot of better ways to tie a load. The only way I could see them outlawed would be OSHA,the equipment rental companies were the first I saw around here to use the ratchet load binders full time. I do think they are safer to use.

kcm.MN · Jun 26, 2021

I sure hope that kind of law never makes it up this way. I rarely haul much, but when I do I have the old-style load binders. I tie the handles VERY secure. Would be idiotic for me to have to buy all new binders for the more-and-more rare haul.

But then, when has "the law" ever taken such things into account? :roll:

Geo-TH,In · Jun 26, 2021

I use chains front and rear. Then I use 4 of my modified chain

Ratchet straps to pull at an angle. I might overdo it having 8 tie points. Never lost anything except a few minutes adding backup I use chains so straps can't rub on metal.

Russ from MN · Jun 26, 2021

You mean chain binder, right?

cjunrau · Jun 26, 2021

in my opinion they should out law the ratchet ones first. you can actually put to much pressure on a chain with them that it will stretch or snap. I have used only one ratchet load binder and hate it and never used it again. My friend had brand new chain and he used it and snapped the chain. 1/2 inch grade 70. He never thought he could over tighten a load binder so just kept ratcheting. I don't know to many people that could over tighten a over center one and snap a chain like that.

tom upton · Jun 26, 2021

I have always called them bear traps. Cant see how/why they could be banned?

SVcummins · Jun 26, 2021

john in la · Jun 26, 2021

People see things like this and then the rumors start flying.

Problem is that is not the DOT rule book.
It is a list of rules put out by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for its employees to use.
In other words a law suit prevention rule.

john in la · Jun 26, 2021

Let me blow up the picture so its easier to read.

SVcummins · Jun 27, 2021

And that mine find feathered friend Is how the Y T D O T got its start . Finally had to open Y T O S H A as well
Y T D O T in its infancy

caterpillar guy · Jun 27, 2021

I like and use both. Both have their places too. In tight close quarters snap binder work well and in more roomy places ratchet binders work well. When loading 50 pounds of mud on a 10 pound trailer so to speak snaps and ratchets work well together. I like to snap a couple binders on the front and a couple ratchet ones on the back that are already hooked so I dont have to tighten then rehook to get all the slack taken up on somethings. Also can pull tractors down to squash the tires some if I need to let the air partially out for height. The illegal is all BS.

Bret4207 · Jun 27, 2021

(quoted from post at 22:00:02 06/26/21) People see things like this and then the rumors start flying.

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Problem is that is not the DOT rule book.
It is a list of rules put out by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service for its employees to use.
In other words a law suit prevention rule.

Yupper! I've been retired from DOT work since '08 and well before I retired this rumor was going around. It was caused by some blurb in the FMCSR that used the word "adjustable" in reference to binders. Well, some mental giants couldn't grasp that a lever binder is most certainly "adjustable". Funny how rumors remain in spite of the facts being out there.

Now the caveat here is that the FMCSR is a Federal reg. A state reg may be different, but it seems unlikely that they would ban lever binders. I'd talk to my states version of DOT Enforcement Officers, be they State Police or Deputies or whatever.

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