Made my first Round bale yesterday

Funny 56 and had never owned a round baler. Made thousands of square bales just no round ones. With my back messed up decided I would try rounds. Neighbor had a Vermeer 504 super G that needed work but had been kept in the barn. He has a new John Deere baler. So he sold me the Vermeer for $600. I put new tires on it , rebuilt the pickup New chains belts should be good for a while. It is manual tie electric. I am having a problem when I tie a bale the string falls off the left side of the bale. I tie it by moving the string to the center and the bale starts tying, then I move it a little at a time to the edge then back to the center and a little at a time to the other edge. I usually count to five and get two wraps of string around the bale but when I dump it the string falls off the left side.

You will always appreciate round bales vs square. Tying nice bales with manual tie is an art youll master in no time

I had that kind of issue with a NI Baler. It had two twine arms, so different design, but same problem. My solution was to make an adjustment so the twine couldnt be wrapped less than 6 inches in from the outside edge of the bale. Several different conditions will create bale/twine problems. One common problem is with having too small a windrow of hay. If the bales come out thimble shape, it can be more difficult to keep the twine on. Also most balers I have been around have a twine tension device. The twine needs to be taunt while it is wrapping on to the bale. Because you only have a single twine arm, there could be a possibility that the string is to slack at the beginning or ending of the tying to have the string sound and tight on the bale. Twine can be frustrating, usually simple adjustments with trial and error, and close observation, these can be sorted out. I found short hay or straw could cause this same issue. Being how you are new to round balers, heres a operating tip. Keep a close eye on the bale string while making a bale, not just at tying time. Some times the twine can come loose, and start feeding into the baler as you feed in hay. The result is string all the way to the core of the bale.

I'm not familiar with a Vermeer rd balers BUT rd balers I'm familiar with have twine guides that have been known to get bent allowing outside twine to fall off bale.

If you made a bale and that's the only problem, you did better than I did. I bought a new round baler in 1979. I tore the lacing out of two belts before I made a full sized bale with it. As the dealer salesman told me one time after he sold one and went out and tried to help the guy get started, we had several abortions and some premature babies before we made a bale.

(quoted from post at 06:44:19 05/25/21) Funny 56 and had never owned a round baler. Made thousands of square bales just no round ones. With my back messed up decided I would try rounds. Neighbor had a Vermeer 504 super G that needed work but had been kept in the barn. He has a new John Deere baler. So he sold me the Vermeer for $600. I put new tires on it , rebuilt the pickup New chains belts should be good for a while. It is manual tie electric. I am having a problem when I tie a bale the string falls off the left side of the bale. I tie it by moving the string to the center and the bale starts tying, then I move it a little at a time to the edge then back to the center and a little at a time to the other edge. I usually count to five and get two wraps of string around the bale but when I dump it the string falls off the left side.

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While it's possible for something to be broken or out of adjustment I would run it a little longer and see if better bale formation solves the problem.

Pack the corners and ignore the center it will take care of itself.

I ran an old Vermeer 605H for years and if nothing else the old balers will teach you how to make a good bale.

After a while when you find you are producing bales with nice square edges if you still have issues with string falling off then it is time to start adjusting things.

Mine had the hydraulic controlled twine arm, I would drop it down to the center until the string started then move out to the end and start making my way across the bale.
When I reached just before the tie end I would let it do a couple of wraps the move the arm back to the center of the bale for a wrap then go full speed to the cutter arm.

Yep, before cutting the string run it back to the center of the bale. I like to give it time for a couple rotations once its there, then cut it. When you cut the string near the edge of the bale, it just falls right off and you end up with half the string trailing the bale when you try to move it.

My first round baking was my neighbor loaning me his tractor and new round baler.

Yikes, nervous.....

Been using my own 605F for a long time now, not many bales, maybe 50-75 a year.

Its interesting starting a new bake some conditions, and interesting making a uniform round bale some conditions. Never had twine just fall off the end, either you are making barrel (tapered) bales by not filling the outsides good, or the twine arm goes too far to the edge.

Paul

Maybe the twine arm stop is bent, broken or missing.

I would suspect just lack of experience and not letting it wrap around a couple of times to get a good tight wrap. The last two I've had now have been computerized and put the twine on by themselves. They wrap two turns on each end by design.

Just got done bailing it's supposed to start raining tomorrow. Neighbor helped rake he has an 8 wheel rake sure beats my old john deere 4 bar. I took your advice and found the twine arm stop shoved out of the way. I adjusted it and it works great, I also tightened up the twine friction disc and that helped. Had a massive plug the hay was extremely dry our humidity was 5% and the hay just crumbled. This is the second day after it was cut. Waited until 6.30 and a little dampness started coming back and it rolled great. Almost done and the bale indicator broke, How did I find out when the bale stopped turning and the belts were squealing LOL. Got the bale out no string oh well at least it came out. Still have some learning to do but it's a good start.