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Janicholson
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I think the tractor is a 1930 vintage. Probable a 28-44 Jim
J. Schwiebert
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1937 was the last year the Hart Parr appeared on the radiators. On the right side of the engine should be a serial number tag consisting of 6 numbers and if the tractor has special transmission options there will be sufix letters and 2 numbers. More questions.
wilson ind
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New York city compared to Saudi Arabia price may vary., With out location how would you expect a price. Let alone does it run condition of gear train engine condition condition of tires? We know tractors, however not many are physic . Do you actually expect a value with nothing of
condition except possibly paint?
condition except possibly paint?
db4600
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I searched for an article about how Russian buying an order of what I remember being the 28-44 model from Hart-Parr which helped to quench their financial burden at the time, but had no luck finding the article. If I recall it was linked out of this site 6-7 years back. Does anyone recall such an occasion?
I don't recall asking you for the price so there is no need for this comment. Its from a family members estate and I don't know anything about tractors. It runs and the tires have air in them and they roll in 2 directions. Other than that, I have no clue. And I understand you may not be a psychic, but I do not know what being a physic would have to do with the price and model of a tractor. Thank you.
Olliejunkie
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We have some grumpy people here. Pay no attention to them. Appears to be a nice little tractor. As J said look for nameplate on side of engine.
I'm thinking that it's a 28-44. You can see the pulley-PTO lever in the first picture. That's not correct for an 18-28. This one is horizontal and not round. The 18-28 is vertical and round. Also, the steering wheel is not in the center, and an 18-28 is. Look on the engine block on the right side. There should be a brass plate that will give you the model and serial number. Like I said, I THINK it's a 28-44. I don't think very often so, who knows.
BarnyardEngineering
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I beg to differ, you did ask for a price. Otherwise what did you mean by this: "Do you know what the price runs for these?"
Also I think you're mistaking "wry" and "sarcastic" for rude.
It's not like a car where there is a book you can look up a value. Tractor values can vary by a factor of 10 just going from one geographic location to another. That doesn't take into account other factors like desirability, collectability, rarity, or the actual condition of the tractor under the shiny paint.
A tractor like that, you have the best chance of getting top dollar for it at a large national auction like the Mecum Gone Farmin' auctions that happen a couple times a year. Of course it's a roll of the dice and you may come out of it with nothing after trucking and commissions are paid, or you may be able to put a few thousand dollars into the estate.
Was able to obtain another picture of the tractor. The estate was poorly managed by my family member and by the executors so it has fallen on the family to do a lot of the stuff. This tractor was kept in a garage since he bought it. The executors claim that it is a 1937 with rating 32-50 with serial number 508688. When the picture was taken the tire was flat, but now it is not. This tractor is for sale as part of the estate (because my family member was disorganized) and I wanted to buy it but they want 1K. In my state (NC) there is literally nobody that wants it and they are wanting to scrap it for metal if nobody pays 1K (after initially wanting to sell it for 8K). They are out of touch with pricing and with putting the effort in to do the research. Thanks everyone for the help.
If you are wanting to buy it as a family heirloom 1,000 is cheap IMO. If you are thinking that you can flip it for profit? Maybe and maybe not. The antique tractor market isn't what it used to be. Most have lost 1/2 or more of their value. Location is extremely important. Make and model matter too. And one of 5 or 6 made compared to one of 300,000.
Many folks have an idea that anything old is valuable. Not true. And dealing with an estate and family the old greed monster often rears it's ugly head.
Anyway welcome to the board.
Rick
wilson ind
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My apology to original poster. Location would have been nice . However most of you are correct, I was rude crude and socially unacceptable . My state of pain should have NO bearing on my reply. Again I apologize!! Also Merry Christmas.
Determined
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From what I have read and what you have posted;
1937 Oliver Hart Parr model 28-44
From what little I know 32-50 was only the HP rating of the high compression 28-44 and never an actual model number.
If your serial number does not have the AC33 after it, it would not be the high compression 32-50 rated version.
As far as condition and value goes, looking closely at the pictures it would appear someone did some decent work on it.
You mentioned in one of your posts that your great grandfather used in pulls.
To me that would suggest it was probably in sound mechanical condition.
Just a guess though as for all I know he may have grenaded the motor in a pull and parked it.
If that tractor had been owned by my great grandfather since new I would be beating down the door with cash in hand if I could get it for the $1000 you said they wanted for it.
Sentimental value and market value are not the same, if you only plan to try to make a few dollars off of it then probably not worth the hassle.
Follow your heart.
1937 Oliver Hart Parr model 28-44
From what little I know 32-50 was only the HP rating of the high compression 28-44 and never an actual model number.
If your serial number does not have the AC33 after it, it would not be the high compression 32-50 rated version.
As far as condition and value goes, looking closely at the pictures it would appear someone did some decent work on it.
You mentioned in one of your posts that your great grandfather used in pulls.
To me that would suggest it was probably in sound mechanical condition.
Just a guess though as for all I know he may have grenaded the motor in a pull and parked it.
If that tractor had been owned by my great grandfather since new I would be beating down the door with cash in hand if I could get it for the $1000 you said they wanted for it.
Sentimental value and market value are not the same, if you only plan to try to make a few dollars off of it then probably not worth the hassle.
Follow your heart.
I'm not sure if i am reading this right or not but if they are willing to sell it for scrap price if no one wants to pay the $1k tell them you will haul it to the scrap yard and then give them $500 that is about all it will bring in scrap also most scrap yards will doc you if there is fluids and tires on it
good luck
Lyndon - AB
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1,000 would be an absolute steal of a deal in my neck of the woods (Alberta). You can't buy a running 28-44 (or 90, or 99) for 1,000 here. Much less one that looks in great shape, and I presume, runs or should run. Would probably be a 3-4k tractor up here. I'd be interested, but too far away for me.
Dealing with relatives and estates is tricky due to emotions and the need to maintain long term relationships. Try not to rock that boat if you can avoid it.
IMHO, a price of $1,000, $500 or $1,500 really isn't that much difference if both the buyer and seller are happy. In a few years today's sale price will be long forgotten. At the rate that tractor collecting is changing and old tractor prices are dropping you won't get much over scrap price when you are ready to sell it anyway.
If you want the tractor and can afford the asking price, then buy it without haggling. By paying the asking price without haggling, no one will be able to come back later and say you stole it or that you treated them badly.
If you can't afford it, or don't have a place to store it, or just plan to flip it quickly, I would let it go to someone else.
Worst case, be ready to bid on it at the estate auction, if there is one.
IMHO, a price of $1,000, $500 or $1,500 really isn't that much difference if both the buyer and seller are happy. In a few years today's sale price will be long forgotten. At the rate that tractor collecting is changing and old tractor prices are dropping you won't get much over scrap price when you are ready to sell it anyway.
If you want the tractor and can afford the asking price, then buy it without haggling. By paying the asking price without haggling, no one will be able to come back later and say you stole it or that you treated them badly.
If you can't afford it, or don't have a place to store it, or just plan to flip it quickly, I would let it go to someone else.
Worst case, be ready to bid on it at the estate auction, if there is one.
So the most recent update I have is that the executor of the estate is not being very reasonable. He initially wanted 8K for it until someone told him he was crazy. So out of spite he said he would just scrap it then. Even though this was family, the estate was poorly managed and the executor is spiteful. I offered $500 because of the supply/demand and because that is all it is sentimentally worth to me. The executor came back and said that the lowest he would take is 3.5k and then hung up on us telling us not to call back. While it would have been nice to have bought my first tractor to start a collection, it wasn?t meant to be. Thanks everyone for the help and responses.
He could have sold it for $500 to you and wouldn t have to touch it. Crazy how people think it all sums up to greed most of the time. His feelings will he hurt when he takes it to scrap yard. Here in Alabama scrap prices are low. I scrapped an A John Deere a few monthes ago. Weighed #4800 got $400 after spending almost half a day getting it loaded, rubber off and fluids out and taking it yard.
If you still want it, be ready to buy it at auction. Be aware that it could sell for closer to $5,000 than $500, so know what your high limit is. It sounds like the executor knows what he has and is doing his job by holding out for a more reasonable offer.
It would have helped us to have know the initial asking price was $8,000 instead of $1,000. Offering a low ball of $500 only offended him, it would have offended me too.
It would have helped us to have know the initial asking price was $8,000 instead of $1,000. Offering a low ball of $500 only offended him, it would have offended me too.
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