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I was behind a car at a stop light. It had a sign on the back, that read: My car is has a clutch. Don't park too close on a hill I may roll back into you. What a dope. Stan
 
I've seen a lot of idiots over the years that think four to six inches between us at a stoplight was plenty enough room. It isn't. Anyone who tells you they have never had a manual transmission vehicle roll back on a hill has either never driven one or is a liar. I've had automatics roll back on a steep hill too.
 


Far and away the majority of drivers on the road today have never driven an automatic and just would never dream that a car or truck ahead of them at a stop sign on a hill could possibly roll back towards them. Also many drivers will routinely tailgate the vehicle ahead, and certainly many are unaware of what a safe distance is. They may have been told as part of their driver training course but were taught while riding with a parent that tailgating is really OK. While most YTers never had to learn to drive a standard since they were born knowing, there are many that do have to learn and need to be allowed a little slack. The sign is a good idea!
 
When our son was learning to drive his manual mustang, a sticker like that would have been awesome. Had to get out once and tell the car behind us to back off at at stop sign on a hill..... I guess our son is a dope. Maybe one day we will reach perfection,like you..... Have a great day
 
37, just goes to show it takes all kinds lol. What you say worries me far less then then people who text while driving grrrrrrrr now that can get people killed !!!!!!!!

John T
 
Hard for old time manual drivers to get used to new fangled things now. Had a 17 and a 20 model with a roll back fetcher. Trouble is i'm off the clutch and ready to take off before brake releases. Could turn it off on the 17 model but no go on the 20. Another thing I hated was the start of anti lock brakes. My foot was used to a automatic lift of pressure when tires broke traction. Hard to retrain reflex to keep pressure on.
 
used to be very common for new clutch learners to roll back a bit,, everyone has to learn at some point,, that said,, its very seldom you even see any clutch outfits on lots new these days,, more of the dumming down I call it. we even had a couple of car thieves here tell the cops when they were finally caught after them taking over 8 units in a months time that one of them they set on fire a almost new work truck was partly done to cover the crime but the one was super mad as he had no clue how to drive it. That said if you pull up and cannot see the rear tires of the outfit in front of you you are indeed breaking the law here in Wyoming, And you are To Close,most times this is why you get rolled up to, not always but most times,, I assume other States also have this same law,, not that its not done every day here but it is a law against it for a reason,, used to just love the drivers who would drive right up against the sander spinner while I was sanding intersections,, one would think seeing the material coming out and then hitting the front of your car would be enough but nope,,
 
Then there are the ones who pass a school bus at a r/r crossing or pass going up a hill over witch they can't see and I see that there is a vehicle coming or pass with leaving minimal room when meeting a bus or large on coming vehicle. I, as a school bus driver have had all the above happen. The last one just a couple of weeks ago, had to pullover to allow the oncoming offending driver in.
Wm.
 
I would suggest that the dope is someone who reads the sign and then stops too close behind on a hill. Seemed like good advice to me .....
 
Last Spring semester, I would go have lunch at the Baptist Student Union near campus every Wednesday.

For some reason on this particular Wednesday, I drove my Dodge 4x4 with the manual 5 speed.

It started pouring down rain during lunch and several students were stranded there because they had walked from campus.

My best friend and one of his girl friends asked for a ride back to campus.

As we got started and I was shifting and downshifting through the gears, they were amazed by all the movement.

The young girl said she had never seen a truck with a floor shift.
 
A few years back I had my 6 sp manual dodge in for a recall and when I picked it up the service manager told a teen looking girl to go and get my truck for me. She came back in a few minutes and said she couldn't drive a standard shift. I said no problem and went and got the truck myself. But I was amused, someone working at a dealership to help and move vehicles around and didn't know.
 
Every car or truck we've owned since 1970 has had a clutch,all my kids and grandkids were taught to drive one.Both my wife and I can shift as smooth as an automatic and yes you will sometimes roll back on a steep hill but with practice it is very seldom.We both like to drive a vehicle not just aim it.
 
I got backed into at a Dairy Queen drive through.

It was on an uphill incline, I even left a good distance between me and the car ahead just for that reason.

But she still got me!

Then had the nerve to get out blaming me for being too close. I'm talking a good 10 feet back!

I asked if she wanted to get the police involved, because I would be glad to go in and call them, and that maybe she needs to get her parents down here.

I guess neither sounded appealing to her, so she drove away with her broken tail light, and the red paint on my bumper.

Never heard anything else about it.
 
I stopped behind a car at a flat intersection. He moved ahead and so I moved up. Then he moved up some more. I thought that he was trying to make room for cars to use the right turn lane that started just a car length behind me. Then he moved up some more and and the passenger flipped me the bird. Turns out he was moving up because he didn't like how close I was to his car. It's really unfortunate that there are so many people in this world that feel the need to control what others do.
 
Heres the deal, no matter what the heck is stopped in front of you, an automatic, clutch, truck or car be smart. Give yourself enough room that if something is coming from behind or from the side you can get out of the way. Dont box yourself in by trying to paste yourself on the rig in front of you.

Makes sense to me.
Phil
 
(quoted from post at 12:33:33 03/28/21) 37, just goes to show it takes all kinds lol. What you say worries me far less then then people who text while driving grrrrrrrr now that can get people killed !!!!!!!!John T
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Exactly!!
I do recall, however, that back in the late 50s, when taking a driver's test, rolling back more than 6 inches when starting on a hill would be an automatic failure. I didn't have to worry though, my older sister let me take the test on her brand new '59 Chevy with AT. LOL
My first car with AT was a '66 Fairlane.
 
I consider my manual shift cars as having enhanced security since so many people can't drive them. If you go to Europe, you mainly see standard transmissions which I thought was strange.


OTJ
 
We all know if we stop on a hill behind a new driver of a manual it'll roll back at start up. I bidded on a older truck from a fire dept. They stated They had a hard time finding younger members that know how to drive a manual.
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(quoted from post at 14:56:52 03/28/21) Give yourself enough room that if something is coming from behind or from the side you can get out of the way. Phil
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Exactly; If you stay back a reasonable distance and are hit from behind, there is likely to be one less damaged car in the equation.
 
When taking defensive driving courses they teach you to stop behind vehicles in traffic just as you can see the rear tires on the vehicle ahead of you touch the road over the front of your own vehicles hood. That gives you a pretty safe cushion of space and allows you room to pull out and pass if the vehicle ahead of you quits and can't move. This don't work when pulling up behind most trucks. Good Luck
 
Most modern standards have hill assist which is basically a brake. My 2010 C300 has it.

Vito
 
Jegs ...... so if you are at a dead stop somewhere and another vehicle is bearing down on you from behind or the side, and you are lucky enough just to see him coming (which you usually don't) you just sort of escape by driving away? Hmmmm, not sure I've ever heard of that, things happen pretty quick in accidents.
 
Sure, I get that ..... so if I add a few words to my question (truck in front with space between), chances of getting out of the situation are slim and none I think. We're talking split seconds here and even then, what are the chances of you ever being aware of the vehicle that is heading towards you and even if you were ........ ?
 
We were rear ended while stopped and hit so hard we were pushed into the car in front of us - there was plenty of space but the girl that hit us never even hit the brakes. The body shop said that some insurance companies will pay for the rear end damage but not the front claiming you stopped to close to the car in front.
 
Pulling up at temporary traffic lights (eg roadworks) I always leave a good space to the car in front until and don't close up least until a couple more things have stopped behind me. Has saved me twice in my driving life when I was able to move forward sharpish as I saw in my mirror someone who was not going to be able to stop in time behind me!
 

I'll chime in with a few driving stories. Years ago in college I was taking courses and mostly having fun in a foreign city where I'd bought a Honda XL 250 trail/street bike. I'd stop on one of the many hills waiting for the light to change. All around me I'd hear the unmistakable sound of the parking brakes being ratcheted into place. Drivers were holding their cars on the hill like that. Kept the interaction with the pedals down to just two--gas and clutch instead of having that pesky brake in the mix.

Years earlier, when I was first driving, mom and I were stopped at a light on a hill that might as well have been pointing straight at the sky. Steep hill. I didn't realize it, but mom was kind of tensing up, wondering how I was going to handle starting out with cars behind me. In all fairness I was a much better driver than she was and I was only around 15. Driving wasn't her thing. If that '73 Bug moved back an inch I'd be surprised. I got it underway without stalling and without red-lining the motor. I only realized she was kind of nervous when she breathed a huge sigh of relief after we got going.

Gerrit
 
(quoted from post at 23:12:30 03/27/21) Who's stupider? The one that cant start on a hill or the one that pulls up to close?
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The latter.

I've driven stick forever, did passed my driving test in one.

Current car is a 6-speed manual, high revving 4 banger with little low end makes pulling away fun.

I use handbrake to hold car on a steep hill while pulling away. Zero roll back.

My old granny low manual diesel pickup you could dump the clutch in Low with a trailer hitched on while heading uphill and not roll or stall with zero accelerator input.
 
Here's a little story for ya CH, happened about 24 years ago and I'll never forget it.

I was selling advertising for a paper in Forest Lake MN, I lived in Andover at the time and had about a 40 minute drive to work. Middle of winter, snowstorm and roads were covered so driving was tricky to say the least. I was rolling east on county road 18 and noticed I had a state trooper behind me, speed was 45 mph at best, coming up to a well known 4 way stop about 2 minutes out of Forest Lake. Slowed and came to a stop at the intersection, I had been watching the trooper behind me while slowing down.

I noticed in my rear view mirror that it didn't look like the trooper was slowing down, the front of his cruiser was getting big way too fast. I knew he wasn't going to be able to stop at the rate he was closing on me, saw him lock up the brakes and start fighting to keep control. I pulled left into the oncoming lane of the intersection about 3 seconds before he slid right past me and through the intersection at about 30 mph.

I was startled to say the least that this officer hadn't figured that he'd need more room to come to a stop. After he slid about 150 ft. he pulled over to the shoulder and I rolled up to him after he came to a stop. Rolled my window down and he did the same and I asked him if he was OK, he was pretty pale, he would have hit me pretty hard, a 30 mph impact is a pretty good hit. He thanked me for being attentive and moving out of the way of his mistake, tossed me his card and said if I ever needed anything to give him a call, he'd help me out if possible.

Again ... whether you are first at a stop or behind somebody, it makes sense to keep your eyes peeled, especially paying attention to your rearview mirror. I'd rather give myself a fighting chance by being observant in the case of a potential rear impact than sit and stare forward. If there had been a car in front of me I would have been able to get out of the way as well, I always leave enough room for an evasive move.
 
Depends on how much you pay attention to your rear view mirror and what's going on around you when driving. Personally I always have a snapshot of whats behind me while driving, what vehicles are where, rate of closure or rate I'm putting distance on etc.. When in the city I even roll my window down, winter or summer doesn't matter, if I don't see something about to happen maybe I'll hear it and be able to avoid it.
 
(quoted from post at 14:27:10 03/28/21) Depends on how much you pay attention to your rear view mirror and what's going on around you when driving. Personally I always have a snapshot of whats behind me while driving, what vehicles are where, rate of closure or rate I'm putting distance on etc.. When in the city I even roll my window down, winter or summer doesn't matter, if I don't see something about to happen maybe I'll hear it and be able to avoid it.
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And there you have it folks, our super hero Jegs is constantly doing what no one else has even thought of doing.
 
I'm with Jegs on this one. I drive a lot in Houston traffic, and I spend a lot of time watching behind me. When traffic comes to a stop on the freeway, I try not to stop too close behind the car in front, so if it looks like the car behind me can't get stopped, I can move forward a little and give him a little more space. A few times I've bailed off to the shoulder. You don't have those options if you're only inches from the bumper in front of you.
 

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(quoted from post at 17:04:06 03/28/21) I'm with Jegs on this one. I drive a lot in Houston traffic, and I spend a lot of time watching behind me. When traffic comes to a stop on the freeway, I try not to stop too close behind the car in front, so if it looks like the car behind me can't get stopped, I can move forward a little and give him a little more space. A few times I've bailed off to the shoulder. You don't have those options if you're only inches from the bumper in front of you.
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Actually Dan, don't you think that most people really do try to pay attention, watching not only a few cars ahead but also keeping track of those overtaking from the rear, and allowing plenty of space for an emergency escape as we were taught in driver's ed?Do you really believe that you and Jegs are really part of such a tiny minority?
 
Have been on the road lately ? Fly by ride brakes the swerve
off the off ramp or fly by slow down so you pass fly by slow
down again
 
Actually Dan, don't you think that most people really do try to pay attention, watching not only a few cars ahead but also keeping track of those overtaking from the rear, and allowing plenty of space for an emergency escape as we were taught in driver's ed?Do you really believe that you and Jegs are really part of such a tiny minority?[/quote]

Showcrop, the majority of drivers around here are actually pretty good. They observe the "social contract" inherent in observing the rules of the road and watching out for others, for the most part.

I've come on here and complained about rude and inconsiderate and just plain bad driving in my area, but mostly I get to where I'm going without incident. The exceptionally bad drivers who are out to create havoc are in fact a minority but are highly visible with their road-rage duels and resulting tie-ups when everyone crashes. They make the roadways a mess and, tragically, take innocent lives at times. Those incidents get the big airplay, not the story of a guy going to get cat food who successfully navigated the few miles there and back with no trouble.

I was actually going to start another thread about how drivers are basically ok, and it's a wonder we mostly get to our destinations with all the different personalities, agendas, and what-not sitting behind the wheel. I guess I'll bury these comments here and be done with it.

I really love driving.

Gerrit
 
(quoted from post at 18:43:59 03/28/21) Have been on the road lately ? Fly by ride brakes the swerve
off the off ramp or fly by slow down so you pass fly by slow
down again
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SV, ask any OTR trucker whether he would prefer to drive mid west or East Coast. They will tell you what it is like to drive in my part of the country.
 
(quoted from post at 10:56:52 03/28/21) Heres the deal, no matter what the heck is stopped in front of you, an automatic, clutch, truck or car be smart. Give yourself enough room that if something is coming from behind or from the side you can get out of the way. Dont box yourself in by trying to paste yourself on the rig in front of you.

Makes sense to me.
Phil
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OKay, so now I know, what I thought were blind drivers, are doing in line at a stop light.
With three car lengths of open space in front of their vehicle.
 
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