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So what's the deal with TSC? I go in there today to buy implement paint, and the Cashier needs my date of
birth to complete the transaction, nothing else, I paid with cash. I asked why, she had no idea, only the computer tells her to ask....smh.
 
This is why .
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The spray paint bombs that real graffiti artists use is not the same stuff as what you buy at the local hardware store. Still, a lot of damage is done by both kinds of spray bombs so I'm not suggesting it's not a problem.
 

Or they are trying to be sure only adults are "huffing" the paint. I have been asked for ID when purchasing Diesel conditioner. The clerk said some were using it to make something for a drug by extracting a component, or some such thing.
 
It's probably a state law. I buy spray paint all the time at TSC and have never been asked my age. California is particularly strict about spray paint.
 
I picked up 2 boxes of 22 ammo yesterday at Orscheln's ad was asked my birthday. Seem there getting worse about that. Like up till about 6 months ago I could buy beer with out being asked my birthday but not any more and that is at a Krogers
 
I asked why, she had no idea, only the computer tells her to ask....smh.

You're right SHE HAD NO IDEA she just works there and does as she's told. I admire young kids who have a job... HOWEVER you still have choices remember, you can refuse to give it in which case they may or may not (maybe its law (which I would respect) maybe not ??) sell you the item or you can shop elsewhere. Im often asked for my e mail or phone number or DOB etc (NOT talking beer or liquor here) to which I very politely refuse and so far they still take my money but if they don't want my business that's their choice no problem...

John T
 

It is not about graffiti, it is because of the dumb dums inhaling the propellant to get high.

Who nows, maybe a law, maybe just corporate liabilty paranoia.

TSC here in Florida asked my gray beard self for i.d. to buy a slingshot.

Wamart next door did not.
 
It's to keep kids from inhaling the spray paint. When I was in jr high and high school. My hobby was restoring or customizing farm toys. I could walk into the John Deere dealer and buy all the spray paint I wanted. If I went to a discount store to buy spray paint and some types of glue. Had to have mother or father along to okay the sale.
 
it has to do with age restricted products, like booze, cigs, ammo, paint, slingshots ect. if there is a state or federal age restriction, and the store sells to a minor, they are subject to heavy fines. many law enforcement agencys have underage people try to buy a product, and if the store does not check id, they get a heavy fine. many places now just card everybody to be safe.
 
It's all about the huffers. I was on the street when our Chief testified in the legislature in favor of the ID/age law for rattle cans.
 
I had purchased Heet dry gas antifreeze or something like that and had to give my date of birth. Said it was so minors wouldn't get ahold of it. I assured the cashier I was going to use it in accordance with the label, as intended. TSC asked for date of birth last few times I've been there. Not there very often.
 
Thanks tractorguy I suspected as much. Then a guy can still choose to refuse them the info and they may well in return NOT sell him the paint in accordance with the law. I have no problem with that...........

Take care now nice chatting with you

John T
 
Too many '_____'s buying it for the fumes. Spray a little in a bag. put it over their face and inhale. They call it huffing.

About 8 years back, one of the ladies in my Sunday School class lost a nephew to doing that. It really tore her up, he was staying in her house at the time. He had already been kicked out of his parents house for doing harder stuff.
 
Same with me at Lowes. Got carded over a can of spray paint. It was on the computer screen there also. Clerk said had to do with air heads inhaling it. Had to be over 17 to buy it.
 
As far as not knowing why, you gotta remember that TSC pays as little as possible to their help. If they have any gumption at all they find a better job asap. in 2007 I started at $8 per hour. Then they made me a 'Team leader' at $8.50 where, for $4 more an 8 hour shift I was responsible for the other associates, counting the cash and locking the place up.

Lots of stuff is just done because someone said to, without any apparent logical reason. I still remember watching the manager sell a batter and she punched out both the 0 and the 7 in the year line.
 
off the subject but a while back went into local drug store for my drugs. new young lady ask for my birth date. i told i can't remember it but i know my brother's and i gave her his birthday. the look on her face was priceless. all the other ladies are laughing. they knew i had a twin brother!!!
 
If I get carded, I tell them they must not need my business if they cant see Im well over 21. Then the say something stupid like I should take it as a compliment. IMHO at 40 it was a compliment, now its a stupid robotic waste of time insulting everybodys intelligence.
 
Yeah, I got asked on the purchase of a couple cans of starter fluid. Fer gosh sakes, Im 74 years old, and look it!
 
(quoted from post at 15:17:44 03/24/21) You're right SHE HAD NO IDEA she just works there and does as she's told. I admire young kids who have a job... HOWEVER you still have choices remember, you can refuse to give it in which case they may or may not (maybe its law (which I would respect) maybe not ??) sell you the item or you can shop elsewhere. Im often asked for my e mail or phone number or DOB etc (NOT talking beer or liquor here) to which I very politely refuse and so far they still take my money but if they don't want my business that's their choice no problem...
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It's not that girl's job or place to decide whether the company wants your business or not. You are just making her job more difficult, stressing her out along with all the people behind you in line who are now waiting while some crotchety old rabble rouser causes a ruckus at the checkout line out of some misguided sense of "privacy."
 
(quoted from post at 02:27:37 03/25/21) If I get carded, I tell them they must not need my business if they cant see Im well over 21. Then the say something stupid like I should take it as a compliment. IMHO at 40 it was a compliment, now its a stupid robotic waste of time insulting everybodys intelligence.
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Too many of these teenage cashiers were selling beer, spray paint, cigarettes, etc. to their underage friends because there was nothing stopping them from doing so.
 
(quoted from post at 16:24:47 03/24/21) This is why .
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You are quite the artist, SV. You should see all the black propane tank cars and grain cars that go by around here. Wish I had a penny for every can of spray paint that has been used on rail cars. Most are really talented artists. Don't know if they carry around a ladder or have some kind of stick to reach up on those cars. What a waste of talent to be out on a railroad siding somewhere when they could be doing something constructive. Read about one town building a new underpass and they invited painters to come out and do their thing but the deal was the city approved what was painted so no cuss words, porn, etc. They were getting painted up anyway and this way the city now has a list of spray painters.

I get asked for a DOB and I always tell the Jan. 1, 1900 which may be the earliest date they can put into the computer. They always give me the double look. One said you don't look that old. Definitely not going to give my real DOB out in public.
 

Asking for date of birth when picking up a prescription is common practice. It's not an invasion of privacy. They already know what your DOB is. They're just confirming that it's actually you picking it up.
The same thing occurs at all doctor and medical appointments. They're just making sure they have the right person.

I've never been asked for it when buying spray paint.
 
(quoted from post at 14:10:56 03/24/21) So what's the deal with TSC? I go in there today to buy implement paint, and the Cashier needs my date of
birth to complete the transaction, nothing else, I paid with cash. I asked why, she had no idea, only the computer tells her to ask....smh.
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Many states have laws requiring this.

Type the name of your state into GOOGLE followed by "spray paint sales laws" and you will get some insight into this.

Or, it's POSSIBLE your state has no such laws and TSC uses a universal "point of sale" program that conforms to the laws of all states.
 

It has to do with kids huffing paint for the propellant.
Same thing with electronics dusters. However if you want to get
wasted Redi-whip is the real deal. Hold can with nozzle upright
into a paper bag then huff. Another group of kids were in a car
and cracked open a propane bottle to get high. Then one of them
lit up a joint...
 
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(quoted from post at 15:17:44 03/24/21) You're right SHE HAD NO IDEA she just works there and does as she's told. I admire young kids who have a job... HOWEVER you still have choices remember, you can refuse to give it in which case they may or may not (maybe its law (which I would respect) maybe not ??) sell you the item or you can shop elsewhere. Im often asked for my e mail or phone number or DOB etc (NOT talking beer or liquor here) to which I very politely refuse and so far they still take my money but if they don't want my business that's their choice no problem...
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It's not that girl's job or place to decide whether the company wants your business or not. You are just making her job more difficult, stressing her out along with all the people behind you in line who are now waiting while some crotchety old rabble rouser causes a ruckus at the checkout line out of some misguided sense of "privacy."
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John T posted; " to which I very politely refuse"

Not sure how that paints him as a crotchety old rabble rouser.

While you may not see it as her job she is still the one getting feedback from the customers be it positive or negative.

If nobody ever speaks up nothing is going to change.

If the individual running the register hears the same complaint over and over it eventually gets relayed up the ladder through supervisors, managers etc.
 
(quoted from post at 18:30:40 03/24/21) Why would a store want to profile a middle aged guy like me, just for buying a quart of tractor paint?
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In any store with modern software the POS (point of sale) will not allow a purchase to be consummated without the DOB or other age verification box being checked off. It is not up to the cashier or individual store - they cannot physically make the sale without the verification. No different than alcohol was in the old days before good computer systems came about. Be thankful for the computers - they do save you money by making stores more efficient.

I went through the self-check at Walmart yesterday and when I scanned a can of spar varnish the computer called for an employee to come to the kiosk without me having to ask. That is pretty darned nice
 
John T posted; " to which I very politely refuse"

Not sure how that paints him as a crotchety old rabble rouser.

While you may not see it as her job she is still the one getting feedback from the customers be it positive or negative.

If nobody ever speaks up nothing is going to change.

If the individual running the register hears the same complaint over and over it eventually gets relayed up the ladder through supervisors, managers etc.
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Crotchety old rabble rousers usually start out "polite," but God help the poor girl behind the counter if she gives him any lip.

Believe me I've been behind plenty of them in lines. Butter wouldn't melt when they "politely decline."

People DID speak up. That's why things are the way they are. People were SICK AND TIRED of these stores selling things to children that they used to poison themselves.

Right or wrong, cashiers proved they could not be trusted to use their own judgement, hence the computer oversight. The computer can't look at you and tell you're old, plus not asking your birth date just because you look old is discrimination, and illegal. Yes, it's illegal to discriminate because of age.

The store owner can't sit there and hover over the cashier to make sure they're doing their job. If you have to sit there and watch what they do the entire time, what's the point of having hired help?
 
If she says she has no idea, she's being polite or she's out in La-La land. Paints and penetrating oils have been chuffed by drug addicts for years now. None of that stuff can be sold to minors anymore. Had one locally who would buy a can of paint, chuff it into his lungs, come back into the store for another can so messed up he could barely walk and with paint still on his nose. Believe it or not the poor fool survived long enough to do a couple of years in prison. Don't think he ever cleaned up his act much, though.
 
Stores here have to scan your photo ID for any purchases of tobacco or alcohol. Since the cash register cannot see your physical appearance or judge your age, that is required as proof that the purchase is legitimate. They may do something similar for other regulated materials. Be thankful that they only asked for your birth date. If they scanned your ID, you might have to account for the whereabouts of the paint if graffiti shows up in your neighborhood.

I suppose the regulation is necessary to prevent some of the abuses that seem to keep happening. I do decline when they ask for my email or phone number at Harbor Freight when I make a purchase. I remind them that to buy a 10 cent fuse, Radio Shack wanted your life's history so to speak. Where is Radio Shack now?
 
I forgot about that one time, a buddy of mine and I purchased a few 12 packs of beer and had to sign a wavier. We had just turned 21, guess it was in case something got broke, caught fire, exploded (which nothing did).
 
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