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I bought a new rake

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SVcummins

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Truck is still broke down so I had to take the family wagon to pull it home 😀

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Farmhand rake
 
Strikes me as funny that these very simple hay rakes didnt dominate the market. Now the Vee style wheel rakes are very popular . I bought my Gull wing style Kuhn rake in the spring of 2016, and after five seasons of using it, I would rather use this kind of rake than any other type. I havent had to spend a cent on it for repairs so far, easy to use and does a excellent job.
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In my earliest memories which would be late 50s dad had a 4 wheel rake he built in the shop using the big steel wheels from old bar type rakes. It was a curiousity at the time and people would stop to watch. He also built a wheel type windrow turner that attached to the side of his Allis model C and all the neighbors used it also. Turned windrows in road gear.
Your picture of the rake behind a car reminded of an incident. Several years ago I was driving along and noticed some small pieces of junk on the road. I drove around them without much thought but the further I went the more pieces there was and I noticed it was pieces of rake teeth and other red and yellow scrapnel. I popped over a hill and in front of me was a station wagon going along about 45 MPH pulling a NH parallel bar rake,, in gear and pieces were flying everywhere. I pulled along side and tried to get the female driver to stop or look back,, she flipped me off and gunned it and pulled away. Mile down the road she stopped when the rake totally destroyed itself.
 
I am looking for a wheel rake eventually to replace my old 56 new holland but it keeps raking so for now Ill keep using it . These old style wheels wouldnt turn very much hay at least the one we had wouldnt comb your hair but the newer style wheels seem to flip about anything . I have rolled 36 foot double raked windrows with my old 56 and it just gets the job done .
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My dad was the first in the neighbor hood to have a wheel rake. Seems that all the neighbors wanted to borrow it cause it worked so well.
 
I will buy a new Vermeer carted wheel Vee rake hopefully in the next year or two, I have ran this one since new starting in the late 80's,, I have had to rebuild the main pivot areas a few times since,, and have starting to replace teeth as they get years one them,, very little repairs though in all those years of use, I used to use it on 2500 acres but have cut back to around 700 acres a year now days, as i round bale 99.8% of my hay I will use nothing else but a VEE rake, I like the hyd roll bar VEE rakes too but do not care for the slower travel speeds they need unless you want to break them in pieces here,, 5 mph or so and you are fine here, I run 10-12 mph with my wheel rake, and they wheel types cost a fraction of the roll bar types,,
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We had a New Idea five wheel rake very similar to the Farmhand. It had a round pole and the Farmhand had a square pole. Some complained that it would role the hay into a rope. Also some said it would pull up rocks. One thing we always liked about it was it had less moving parts. Back in the 60's and 70's they were not really popular. Now everyone around us has a wheel type rake.
 

Case Nutty 1660
I'll recommend you entertain the idea of a Hi-cap rake that rake wheels mount in front of frame next to un-raked vs other style with frame next to un-raked & rake wheels behind frame which in thick hay blocks hay flow.

Since 2002 my H&S Hi-cap 14 wheel has raked many 1000's of rough acres. By simply moving hyd lever i can rake three 10 ft flat swaths down to just one 10 ft flat swath if thickness of hay warrants narrower raking width. Windrow width is adjustable separately from raking width by turning a crank handle. Although I've never seen the need I can also lock one side of wheels up & rake with just one side.
 
Dad and grandpa bought a new Farmhand rake like this one. Didn't do very good in short or thin hay. After a couple years the teeth started breaking, continually replacing teeth. Think in the winter of the second year Dad traded it for a New Holland roll-a-bar rake.
 
we had one of those never used it much,just did not work well,we bought on auction and always thought it might been sprung i cut it up later on and used steel on another project.
 
I have one of those rakes sitting in a fencerow. I've adjusted it every way that it can be adjusted, and it will not do a good job of raking. The good thing about it is - you can rake in road gear if you can stay in the seat. The bad thing about it is - you HAVE to rake in road gear because it takes two trips over the field to get the job done.
 
Bruce, your rake is much improved from the one that SV is showing. I have a small one with wheels like yours, and it does a good job. The old ones with the short teeth bolted to the outer rim of the wheel are no comparison to your rake.
 
I tried one of those rakes in 2015 before I bought
my carted style rack. Two of my friends had them at
that time, and told me that the rake with 4 wheels
was the way to go. After I tested one out I liked it
too. Although it was twice as much money.
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After trying the carted gull wing style rake, I thought
it worked just as well for raking, and better fit my
budget. Neither of my friends have their rakes now.
Both had one of the swiveling front wheels snap off.
They both fixed their rakes and traded them on
mergers. Mergers cost big $$$. And they have
many moving parts to wear and need replacement.
 
Those type of rake never caught on around here when they first came out.Everyone called them pinwheel rakes. Not sure why but I would guess they didnt do as good of a job compared to a side delivery rake. The farm I worked for when I was young had one when they first came out but it was gone by time I went to work there in the 1970's . They had also bought a frame that was mounted on an old JD A with I believe 2 pinwheels on it that I remember using once or twice but that went away too . It was only used to turn over raked windrows but didnt work that good . I imagine the newer ones are much improved still dont see many here. Most of the newer stuff is either rotary rakes of various capacity or mergers for the big farms harvesting hay as silage in large amounts.
 
Been hoping to find a factory windrow turner but so far no luck,, your build would sure enough work also,, I just seldom have a need to turn a windrow any more or i would have done just as you did
 
I have a New Idea copy of the same rake. Never have been able to get it to do a good job, especially picking up light hay. Think I need to fix up my 3pt NI mounted reel type rake. More maintenance, but far better at getting the field clean. Baler likes the windrows better too.
 
I have the John Deere version of this rake. Paid $450 for it at an auction. VERY good rake and haven't had to replace anything besides a couple of tires. Never had a problem in thin hay either
 
I have one, was my Dad's. It will turn a windrow 180 degrees quite nice, not so good in light hay. It's why I bought a haybine, I just want hay in a windrow. Son of a gun getting teeth at a reasonable price, and why they break? I don't remember Dad ever dealing with that issue. I've replaced teeth and new teeth break. I just picked up three teeth as my budget allows for such things at p-off mart formerly TSC for just less than 7 bucks Canadian, not the worst deal but a bit too much money.
 
I had one of those farmhand never had a problem trouble free just had to keep teeth bout 2" above ground don't dig with it and teeth stayed on just watch for chuck holes wish I still had it son sold it cause he wanted rotary rake money eater with expensive gearbox
 
Ive got one of those factory built but it wont roll very heavy hay thought about putting some plywood circles and putting them on
 
The cheap rake teeth at tsc or Bomgaars dont last very long . I found the oem ones are a lot better .
 
I never understood people that cried about dirt in the hay if the rake is set set right the hay turns the wheels not dirt
 
Really? I am surprised. Small fields with pot holes, stumps, rose bushes to avoid, old cow pastures that you can hardly walk on with ruts and divots. I wouldn't know a square flat field if I saw it. Ha. Could never get rigid bars to follow the constantly changing ground contours.
Plus with the individual wheels, can also adjust the throw.

For example, a common way to start raking a field is to rake the outside Windrow into the field with only the first two wheels down. Then turn around and rake the first round back out, but still with only first two wheels down so it keeps away from the fences, buildings and trees. Second round is raked out with first 3 wheels down to keep distance from first round. 3rd round on after gets all wheels down.

In grass, oats, and clover. First, second and third cutting. Just my experience.
I guess to start a bigger storm, should I take a photo of one of the morrill rakes being pulled by dads john deere 2010?
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I have to admit that your rake does a much better job than mine has ever done. Nice and clean in the picture.

Other folks mention breaking teeth. That was one problem that I never had with this rake.
 
We never had an issue with broken teeth except when the neighbor would borrow it; even after they only raked 10-12 acres it would come back with a dozen or so teeth broken. The only reason we could figure for this happening was his hired man making hard left turns at speed. We might break 3 or 4 in a years time, some years none at all.
 

Spending that not yet received stimulus check already? The one we should have gotten months ago but was delayed.

I spent mine a few months ago.
 
Accountant says . Come meet me we have to fill out
something so I can get the checks . Good ol affordable
healthcare Is the reason Im in the shape Im in . Ive posted
the letter from the irs about the 1500.00$ I owe because I
couldnt afford healthcare but were not allowed to post the
truth .
 
You can set that just touching the ground and with a light third cut you won't rake much. If you have to invest very much for teeth for this rake it won't be long till you've invested what you paid for it. Our original, my Dad's, the wheels were a fairly light channel steel which have given way to wear. I had a freebee come my way and the wheels are a circular angle iron, seeming to be a bit stronger and easier to change teeth which seems to be a problem I have.
 
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