Which round baler?

morgan in ar · Mar 5, 2021

I'm needing to buy another round baler.
I've found a Vermeer 504 super I and a New
Holland 640 in my budget. Both are twine
only. Vermeer is hydraulic tie, NH is
autowrap. If condition was equal, which one
would you choose? Any wear points specific
to these two balers?

Thanks again
Morgan

muleman51 · Mar 5, 2021

I don't know either baler but unless you have indoor storage for all of your hay i wouldn't get one without net wrap. I have an older round baler and quit using it unless I can get them wrapped and since I only bale a few acres nobody wants to come do it anymore.

jacksun65 · Mar 5, 2021

I like vermeer they make a tight bale, Hydraulic tie would require two hydraulic valves.

oldwrencher · Mar 5, 2021

I have a N H 650,,,same vintage as the 640 only will make a 6 ft bale if you want, which I don't. Only problem so far - on used purchase- has been one bearing ang the complete gear set which was 2200 bucks and three days work, which I did myself. The only tieing problem was the twine arms had grooves worn in them and replacements were hard to get adjusted correctly. It makes a very good bale, but my rake makes a windrow the correct width for the pickup,so very little problem with square corner bales. I know nothing about a vermeer. Good luck whichever you choose

TBA · Mar 5, 2021

I have good luck with New Holland. Consider dealer location and parts and service.

NEKS · Mar 6, 2021

I have a 504 silage I and like it and my brother has a 504 super I. Break a big spring now and then probably be cause of age.

Case Nutty 1660 · Mar 6, 2021

have ran a number of models in both brands,, if you had auto-tie on the Vermeer that would be my first choice,, I have ran that brand for over 20 years now,, NH makes a good baler though for sure,, just a few things I like way better on what I have,, but no way ever will I have one with out auto-tie again,, with what you have posted I would go with the NH

Determined · Mar 6, 2021

(quoted from post at 18:29:07 03/05/21) I'm needing to buy another round baler.
I've found a Vermeer 504 super I and a New
Holland 640 in my budget. Both are twine
only. Vermeer is hydraulic tie, NH is
autowrap. If condition was equal, which one
would you choose? Any wear points specific
to these two balers?

Thanks again
Morgan

I used a Vermeer with hydraulic tie for years it worked well but not fast.

Currently using a New Holland with auto tie twine and net, the difference in speed is huge.

With the Vermeer if I was averaging 20 bales an hour it was a good day.
With the NH running on net I have done 350 bales in a hair over 7 hours.

Wear wise the Vermeer pick up was rock solid only needed a few fingers and 1 cam in 10 years.
The NH pickup gave me a fair bit of grief when I first got it, if I keep my pto rpm down around 1700 it holds together well.

Tx Jim · Mar 6, 2021

Determined
May I ask what the diameter of the bales & the twine spacing was on the bales that you made 50 bales per hour was? Twine must have been spaced farther than few inches apart or bales weren't very large in diameter.

MARK ROBKE · Mar 6, 2021

He was using net wrap when he made 50 rolls per hour. Mark.

Determined · Mar 6, 2021

(quoted from post at 11:10:32 03/06/21)
Determined
May I ask what the diameter of the bales & the twine spacing was on the bales that you made 50 bales per hour was? Twine must have been spaced farther than few inches apart or bales weren't very large in diameter.

Tx Jim

Bales were full size 5x6 made from a heavy crop of oat green feed.

In my post I said;

"With the NH running on net I have done 350 bales in a hair over 7 hours."

Tx Jim · Mar 6, 2021

Sorry I overlooked where you stated "net".

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