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mjsnodgrass
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i've done it. fine line between too much tongue weight and not enough. be careful.
showcrop
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Sure you could but if it is a good idea or not depends on if it would be legal or not. Very few people that get in wrecks said "well I guess I will go out and get in a wreck today" Usually people are trying to be careful . You need to check the data plate on the trailer to see what the gross weight capacity is. If you get in a wreck and someone gets hurt the investigators will check to see if you have the load capacity. If you don't you are pretty much guilty no matter what the cause was or whois otherwise at fault.
Traditional Farmer
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How heavy and long is the trailer and what are you going to be pulling the trailer with?
Steve@Advance
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It weighs about 2700 lbs.
Check the capacity of the tires, axle, and springs.
The trailer must be long enough to he able to balance the load properly. You need about a 60-40% split with 60% to the front.
Be careful, you are probably pushing the limit!
Check the capacity of the tires, axle, and springs.
The trailer must be long enough to he able to balance the load properly. You need about a 60-40% split with 60% to the front.
Be careful, you are probably pushing the limit!
If the trailer is built for that weight. Axle, tongue etc.
Then, its going to be a bouncy mess. Lot of weight on the one axle every pothole is gonna play heck with the trailer suspension and transfer into your pickup as well, rough ride.
But it can be done if everything is proper.
Paul
Then, its going to be a bouncy mess. Lot of weight on the one axle every pothole is gonna play heck with the trailer suspension and transfer into your pickup as well, rough ride.
But it can be done if everything is proper.
Paul
On a 7000 lbs axle trailer why not. On a 3500 if it weighs 2750 and the trailer weighs 1000 NO way I would. 3500 lbs axles are made to hold 3500lbs not moving. I have delt with so many bent 3500lbs axles that I know never got more than 3000lbs on them it sucks. one bump and bent.
larry zielkowski
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when i pulled a travel trailer the rig was set with a load levelr if I remember right don't exactly remember the purpose it was many years ago but could that help in this situation ?
larry zielkowski
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thanks showcrop for clearing that up. It was an old memory but i pulled that trailer and four kids a lot of camping miles lots of fun
DMartin9N-2N
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Good evening, larry z: I have a load-leveler hitch, it attempts to compensate for having too much weight on your hitch, which causes the tow vehicle's front end to sit high. The load leveler makes the towing vehicle sit more level as you tighten the hitch adjusters. The more you think about it, the more confusing the dynamics get.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
Dennis M. in W. Tenn.
Destroked 450
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I wouldn't, to much tongue weight and the truck drives bad, to much weight on the back and you find yourself upside down in a ditch.
I've worked a few accidents were the trailer had to much weight on the back, all of them resulted in the truck being flipped over.
Russ from MN
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My father hauled his JD 350 crawler dozer (wt. about 11,000) on a single axle lowboy for many years, but it had 800x20 tires! Single axle lowboys were pretty common in the 50's &60's. He pulled it behind a 750 Ford that he also used to pull his 32 foot tandem pulpwood trailer.
thehickdaddy
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I have been waiting for SV to post a photo, and a great one at that! Photo is small on my phone but my dad votes massey 92 since he can not see the tall elevators of the 90?
And dad asks how you loaded the header in the truck?
Dad says he remembers watching the neighbor build himself a single axle tilt trailer in the 1940s. Trailer was built out of 4 by 6 on edge, and 24 feet long to haul allis chalmers m crawler plus disk or plow behind. Trailer pulled by flathead v8 ford 2 ton truck with 4 speed main, 3 speed brownie and vacuum 2 speed rear
Photo is of myself driving Case D towing 11,000 lb IH TD6 on single axle tilt trailer. 9.00 20 tires on 10 budd wheels barely flex.
And dad asks how you loaded the header in the truck?
Dad says he remembers watching the neighbor build himself a single axle tilt trailer in the 1940s. Trailer was built out of 4 by 6 on edge, and 24 feet long to haul allis chalmers m crawler plus disk or plow behind. Trailer pulled by flathead v8 ford 2 ton truck with 4 speed main, 3 speed brownie and vacuum 2 speed rear
Photo is of myself driving Case D towing 11,000 lb IH TD6 on single axle tilt trailer. 9.00 20 tires on 10 budd wheels barely flex.
RobCons
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Sure its possible. Just watch the balence and weight ratings. If I were buying a trailer to haul it with I would opt for a double axle.
BarnyardEngineering
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"Sure you can!" these guys proclaim, then go on to show a picture of a trailer with the biggest heaviest old truck axle under it that you've ever seen.
The OP has yet to answer the question: WHAT TRAILER? Most commercially-built single axle trailers have axles under them that are rated for 3500lbs or less. It's rare for single axle trailers to have a 5000, 6000, or even 7000lb rated axle under them. Usually they will put two 3500lb axles under a trailer first, as tandem axle trailers are more stable generally speaking.
For sure it would be overloading any trailer with a 3500lb axle. Whether that's a problem for you, is up to you. If the trailer and tires are in good shape, and you don't hit any big potholes, or encounter any other difficult road conditions, you would be okay for a short slow trip.
However if you plan on hauling the tractor hundreds of miles like this, reconsider.
The OP has yet to answer the question: WHAT TRAILER? Most commercially-built single axle trailers have axles under them that are rated for 3500lbs or less. It's rare for single axle trailers to have a 5000, 6000, or even 7000lb rated axle under them. Usually they will put two 3500lb axles under a trailer first, as tandem axle trailers are more stable generally speaking.
For sure it would be overloading any trailer with a 3500lb axle. Whether that's a problem for you, is up to you. If the trailer and tires are in good shape, and you don't hit any big potholes, or encounter any other difficult road conditions, you would be okay for a short slow trip.
However if you plan on hauling the tractor hundreds of miles like this, reconsider.
BarnyardEngineering
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I guess I'll relate my personal experience with overloading a single axle trailer.
Neighbor bought a brand new 1025R Deere compact with loader and backhoe. Since the dealer was only a few miles away, I loaned him my 6.5x12 single axle landscaping trailer and went with him to help load it up.
We figured the tractor/loader/backhoe combination weighed every bit of 3000lbs. Here's what I observed:
1. The side rails of the trailer went from straight to bowed in.
2. The springs were compressed to the point where the axle was riding on the frame.
3. The trailer tires were squatting halfway to the rim.
4. Even with the loader bucket hung over the front of the trailer, we had to swing the backhoe to the side and the trailer was still tail heavy.
It was only a few miles. We took it slow. Everything arrived in one piece. I would not want to haul it any appreciable distance like that.
Neighbor bought a brand new 1025R Deere compact with loader and backhoe. Since the dealer was only a few miles away, I loaned him my 6.5x12 single axle landscaping trailer and went with him to help load it up.
We figured the tractor/loader/backhoe combination weighed every bit of 3000lbs. Here's what I observed:
1. The side rails of the trailer went from straight to bowed in.
2. The springs were compressed to the point where the axle was riding on the frame.
3. The trailer tires were squatting halfway to the rim.
4. Even with the loader bucket hung over the front of the trailer, we had to swing the backhoe to the side and the trailer was still tail heavy.
It was only a few miles. We took it slow. Everything arrived in one piece. I would not want to haul it any appreciable distance like that.
buickanddeere
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If you have to ask , you already know the combination is prone to failure .
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