install front loader

Freddie2010 · Feb 25, 2021

Hi, I just bought a 1959 Massey ferguson 35. I want to change over my loader from my 2010 John Deere to the Massey ferguson. I have no remotes, so where can I hook up to the hydraulics on the Massey. Where can I hook up the return.? thank you Any help will be very much appreciated.

buickanddeere · Feb 25, 2021

While the manual steering 35 Massey is an entirely respectable tractor in its own way . A loader
Tractor it is not .
What model of loader was in the 2010 ? We can understand why you want to use something other than a 2010.

SVcummins · Feb 25, 2021

How Macy people have actually owned a 2010 ? And how
Many times did someones cousins uncles brothers mother
earl dun has one won time and they replaced parts expensive
parts ?

Freddie2010 · Feb 25, 2021

It is just an old trip bucket loader. I do not know what kind it is. But it works well.

Steve@Advance · Feb 25, 2021

You'll need one of these.

It goes on top of the top plate, under the seat.

Return can go into anywhere behind the transmission case, I would drill and tap one of the round inspection covers.

But don't expect to get in a big hurry, not much of a pump. Unless it has a dual clutch, the hydraulics only work when the clutch is engaged, either in neutral or moving.

If it has power steering, it may be a Deluxe which has a dual clutch.
Diverter Valve

Freddie2010 · Feb 25, 2021

Can't I use the up and down valve that I used on the 2010? I very seldom use the loader, but it does come in handy at times.

Freddie2010 · Feb 25, 2021

It does have a two position clutch. The top half of travel is for the movement of the tractor. The bottom half is for the hydraulics.

TractorTucker · Feb 25, 2021

I don't know, but it would be interesting to find out. All I know is that a good friend of my grandfather bought a 2 owner 2010 15 years ago and it has never had any problems for him. He doesn't use it a whole lot but he keeps it inside and routinely maintains it. I think the most expensive thing he has done is replace the dump cylinders on the loader with aftermarket ones.

db4600 · Feb 25, 2021

We had one on the farm. It almost made Pa convert religions!

SVcummins · Feb 26, 2021

I bet youd be surprised. How many have never even seen one

Ultradog MN · Feb 26, 2021

Steve,
Didn't all the 35s have live hydraulics?

VicS · Feb 26, 2021

Seems like you can chain the 3 point arms a little ways down from top. There is a plug somewhere around top of case to check pressure. Plug loader in there. Just need a shutoff valve to hold loader up while you use the 3 point. One I used had a bracket to pin the 3 point arms about 2" from top.

Tx Jim · Feb 26, 2021

(quoted from post at 22:27:48 02/25/21) How Macy people have actually owned a 2010 ? And how
Many times did someones cousins uncles brothers mother
earl dun has one won time and they replaced parts expensive
parts ?

Does being employed at a JD dealer from 65-'87 & serving as a JD dealer service manager from '75-'87 count as well as ownership???

SV you need to get a 2010 diesel & work it similar to your 3020 & report back ""how well it didn't stand your test""!!!

I didn't own a 2010 but my brother owned a 2010 gasoline that was a decent tractor until it caught fire & burned.

Bret4207 · Feb 26, 2021

(quoted from post at 00:27:48 02/26/21) How Macy people have actually owned a 2010 ? And how
Many times did someones cousins uncles brothers mother
earl dun has one won time and they replaced parts expensive
parts ?

Agree. Rural legend overpowers the fact most of the people badmouthing something have never even seen one much less owned or operated one. Yeah, the sleeve deck engine wasn't Deeres greatest achievement, but it's not grey market "no parts exist" rig either.

As far as the OP, what in the world would you want to put a loader on a 35 for when you have a much heavier, more powerful tractor that probably has power steering?

Bob N.Y. · Feb 26, 2021

I agree that you would be better off leaving the loader on the 2010. Be advised that the hydraulic pump in the 35 only puts out 4 gpm. The loader would be very slow.

Freddie2010 · Feb 26, 2021

Because the 2010 has so many things wrong with it, that It is going to the scrap heap.

Freddie2010 · Feb 26, 2021

Hi, I Don't understand why I would have to chain the three point arms. Could I achieve the same results by putting something heavy on the three point arms.? thank you

Deere Mark · Feb 26, 2021

Until recently had a MF 35 with a Sauder loader (made in New Holland PA). Previously had a Sauder trip loader with a much simpler hydraulic setup (pipe from a port under the seat and the three point arms held down with a welded fixture). And yes it was slow, but it was so much better than no loader at all.

Freddie2010 · Feb 26, 2021

This is exactly the information that I am looking for. Thank you also for the picture. I don't know how to get a hold of you for more information because I know little about computers.Can I get your phone number or e-mail address? thank you

Deere Mark · Feb 26, 2021

I will have more time to answer later. It was a 1962 model MF 35 with multi-power and power steering and the two-stage clutch.
For the original trip loader, the hydraulic lever on the right side was used to raise and lower the loader. That is why stopping the motion of the three point arms was necessary.
I can't find a better picture of what was installed under the seat of the tractor to obtain one hydraulic port. I remember that it had two small levers. I am not sure if it was really necessary to "chain" the three point arms for the newer loader or if the three point hitch could have been used with out removing the loader.
The tractor was not used very much during its final 35 years on the farm; just some drawbar and loader work.

Freddie2010 · Feb 27, 2021

I never thought about lifting the bucket with the lever for the three point hitch. Mine is a 1959 or 1960 so I would think I could do the same thing. I am going to research it some more. Maybe I can find out where to hook the pressure line and where to hook the return line. Thank you so much for the help. I may get this project done yet.

Freddie2010 · Feb 27, 2021

I just want to thank all of you who helped me with this project. I appreciate it very much. I have learned some and have some more to learn. It will take time, but thanks to all of you. I will get this done.

buickanddeere · Feb 27, 2021

(quoted from post at 00:02:53 02/26/21) I don't know, but it would be interesting to find out. All I know is that a good friend of my grandfather bought a 2 owner 2010 15 years ago and it has never had any problems for him. He doesn't use it a whole lot but he keeps it inside and routinely maintains it. I think the most expensive thing he has done is replace the dump cylinders on the loader with aftermarket ones.

Gas or diesel ?

Deere Mark · Feb 27, 2021

Found this picture which is similar to the unit on our MF 35. Didn't know which lever did what, just fiddled with it until the loader worked.

This is from "Big Deans" Massey Ferguson repair CD file; which I believe is now hard to find.

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