Keep buying those Marvel Schebler Carbs folks

Ultradog MN · Dec 30, 2020

I went over to the hi-tech foundry near me
and used one of their sand blasting
cabinets tonight. I know the owner pretty
well and he lets me come in on second shift
when all the muckity mucks are gone and
blast away.
Tonight I saw they are making some MS
carburetors again. Only about a hundred or
so this time. I have seen hundreds of them
there before. These are still on the
'tree'.
They'll get cut off the tree and then have
the molds they're in shot away in a
machine. I think you can see the bowl of
several of them partially exposed.
A few years ago some neighbors got together
and complained to the City Council about
the foundry being noisy.
So I asked to get up and speak.
I reminded everybody that the foundry has
been there for a long time. Long before
they bought their houses in that
neighborhood. They should gave considered
the noise before they bought.
Then I said I didn't mind a bit of noise as
I knew the place provided a lot of good
jobs.
Then I told everyone that I was kinda proud
to live near one of the last factories left
in America and if people make it too
difficult they'll just make these in China
instead of here.
The Council voted that the foundry was
within its rights and told the people to
deal with it - though not in those exact
words.
So keep buying these Marvel Schebler
carburators guys. It's good for our local
economy and I like to sandblast my tractor
parts.
PS they had baskets and baskets of the
tails for about 75?mm mortar rounds there
too tonight.
They make thousands of those every year.

David G · Dec 30, 2020

Cast iron?

Ultradog MN · Dec 30, 2020

David G · Dec 30, 2020

Nice, thanks.

paul · Dec 30, 2020

There is a foundry in Minnesota yet? Cool.

Cast iron, isn’t it a bit of a pot metal, not the classic hard pure cast iron we think of? Or maybe it is, cool any which way.

Paul

DoubleO7 · Dec 30, 2020

I might be wrong but I think those have been made via the lost wax method?

What is now cast iron in those pictures was hard wax.
Then the wax tree and carb bodies are repeatedly dipped in a ceramic slurry. Each time dipped, the ceramic slurry gets thicker and thicker.
Then the "green" ceramic mold with the wax replica of the cast iron inside is put in a kiln and fired like pottery.
That process allows the wax to melt out early on in the kiln.

Then remove from kiln and while at an elevated temperature, will the mold with cast iron.

brooktre · Dec 30, 2020

That is interesting. I wonder where you can buy a MS USA made carb.

Janicholson · Dec 30, 2020

Grede Foundry is certainly in operation. Some complain, most understand it is quality employment. Some of my students go there for assignments and some for internships. Jim
Grede

Dean · Dec 30, 2020

No.

MS carburetors are cast iron.

China carbs are alloy.

Dean

gidtex · Dec 30, 2020

Do u know who does the machine work

37 chief · Dec 30, 2020

Your input to the city council may have saved the company, who knows. Out here where I live a lot of people raised chickens for eggs. Thousands of chickens. Hosing developments were built near the chickens. Then people bought the houses and complained about the stink, and fly's. Stan

Greg NE · Dec 30, 2020

Kudos to you for speaking up at the meeting!! I believe that probably has happened to too many businesses in the past and the short sighted people complained to much about their own poor decisions and wanted someone else to make up for it.

Russ from MN · Dec 30, 2020

My friends son works there. That used to be a factory that built big turbines, both gas and steam. I believe it was called Turbodyne? Then I think it was Brown-Boveri before it closed in the early 80's There were some machinists came from there to the paper mill.

M-MAN · Dec 31, 2020

Years ago I read where someone was going to start making the Marvel Shebler carbs here again. I had given up on it actually happening. Would you be so kind as to ask your friend the name of whoever is having them cast?

timcasbolt · Dec 31, 2020

(quoted from post at 00:05:08 12/31/20) No.

MS carburetors are cast iron.

China carbs are alloy.

Dean

he word alloy just means that it's a mix of multiple components. All castings are an alloy of some sort.

super99 · Dec 31, 2020

That would be an interesting tour!!!

Richard G. · Dec 31, 2020

We lost a small foundry here about 3 years ago.
Was 6 miles from our place.
They made quite a bit of stuff for us over the years..
Richard in NW SC

Kansasredneck · Dec 31, 2020

Mortars would be either 60mm or 81mm.
Thanks for your input to keep jobs in America. Our trade with China is destroying American industry.
The green movement is, in reality, red. Shifting production to China where emissions and safety standards are nonexistent increases pollution. We can make it better,faster, safer and cleaner. Again, thank you.

DPittman · Dec 31, 2020

Being a foundry man myself I appreciate you coming to the defense of your local facility. I don’t know how many foundries are left in America but the last I heard was under a 1000. That was probably 15 years ago. The castings on the pallet, if they are repops I’m assuming they would be iron of which grade, ductile, malleable or gray? It would also be interesting to know what molding process was used to get that many cores lined up that nice. Probably more hi-tech than a Disamatic or a Hunter. Maybe I’ll get a chance to visit one day.

Hobo,NC · Dec 31, 2020

Cool...

A new foundry is being built a few miles from me...

https://www.bharatforge.com/

There has been a small one around for as long as I can remember. One of the owners is a friend of mine. He spent most of his career as a pattern maker he's an interesting guy to talk to.

The seaboard cost line is out my back door and down the street. Folks say "WHUTS DAT" I say its just a train.

1/4 mile are so is a Gun club a nice one, folks will say someone is shoot'N : ) I tell'em yep the locals don't take prisoners...

1948CaseVAI · Dec 31, 2020

(quoted from post at 22:51:43 12/30/20) Grede Foundry is certainly in operation. Some complain, most understand it is quality employment. Some of my students go there for assignments and some for internships. Jim
Grede

The Grede plant in Wichita sure was quality employment although small (90 jobs). It closed about 10 years ago after a railcar went rogue on the tracks near the building and some foundry equipment was damaged in the crash. Glad to hear they are still operating elsewhere!

DoubleO7 · Dec 31, 2020

(quoted from post at 08:46:41 12/31/20)

(quoted from post at 00:05:08 12/31/20) No.

MS carburetors are cast iron.

China carbs are alloy.

Dean

Click to expand...

he word alloy just means that it's a mix of multiple components. All castings are an alloy of some sort.

It is not uncommon for any non ferrous metal to be called "alloy" vs the specific metal.

Like facial tissue all being called kleenex.

Those carbs made with aluminium or zamak should be half price.

Crazy Horse · Dec 31, 2020

KRN ..... your comment .... "We can make it better,faster, safer and cleaner" is no doubt correct. Unfortunately though there is one adjective missing in your list (starts with the letter C) which explains why it all happened in the first place. And we have ourselves to blame I guess.

Roger Tomfohrde · Dec 31, 2020

There is actually two in Lake City MN. One Aluminum and one cast iron. I worked in the attached machine shops for close to ten years in the 90s, had close to 600 employees in a small town. Had many names over the years Clevite was one and last it is Federal Mogul. When I left they were making sleeves for a Toyota venture. I made pistons and sleeves for a lot of old tractors Did a stint making case hardened sleeves for IH, Heard they were having problems again this year so it might not bee too long before it goes away too.

BarryfromIA · Dec 31, 2020

We have a foundry here in South Sioux City NE that makes gray iron castings and was updated several years ago. It's called Sioux City Foundry.

SDE · Dec 31, 2020

We got the majority of our casting from three foundries. One of which was the Sioux City foundry.

Jeff in ND · Dec 31, 2020

I might be wrong but I think those have been made via the lost wax method?

Investment casting. A form of lost wax so you are not wrong.

I am surprised these type of things used that process as I thought they only did things like pot metal, brass, or aluminum that way and not iron. But, I only had that 1 overview class freshman year in engineering college over 30yrs ago...

I am totally surprised you can buy a literally new carb like this though. Seems like a low volume product for sure. I am also pleasantly surprised they are made (at least the raw castings) in my home state of MN.

thanks for posting!

timcasbolt · Dec 31, 2020

(quoted from post at 11:46:57 12/31/20)

(quoted from post at 08:46:41 12/31/20)

(quoted from post at 00:05:08 12/31/20) No.

MS carburetors are cast iron.

China carbs are alloy.

Dean

Click to expand...

he word alloy just means that it's a mix of multiple components. All castings are an alloy of some sort.

Click to expand...

It is not uncommon for any non ferrous metal to be called "alloy" vs the specific metal.

Like facial tissue all being called kleenex.

Those carbs made with aluminium or zamak should be half price.

or me the word alloy is closest to salad. Some people hear salad and think lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, etc. Other people hear salad and think potatoes, boiled eggs, miracle whip. Personally, I've never thought of alloy as being a way to describe something non-ferrous. In fact, in 40 years working in various factories, every material I ever worked with was an alloy.

Keep buying those Marvel Schebler Carbs folks

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Well-known Member

Member

Well-known Member

Similar threads