Tractor - Drawbar Only

Bill VA

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Anyone out there only using only tractors with a draw bar and no rear lift hitch of any kind?

If so, what are your crops and what implements do you pull?

Just curious.

Thanks!
Bill
 

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Most guys here in the hills of pa use only pull behind implements and no 3pt implements at all.Due to the steepness of the land,if you are using 3pt implements,when you get to the end of the rows,you go to lift it up,and it will shift the whole tractor downhill,which of course is extremely unstable and a lot more dangerous,but with pull behind implements,they are obviously supported by a wheeled frame,so when you lift them up on a sidehill it won't sway the entire tractor downhill.This example may seem a little extreme to most guys,but if you have seen or farmed PA farmlands you will know what I mean.

Rock
 
Most 'dryland' and Canadian wheat growers use drawbar only trators.Also called "bareback".In my irrigated area of western ColoradoI use pull behond disks,pulvi mulchers,chisel plow/field cultivator,land plane. Everything else is three point. Includeing my 4 rollover plow.
 
Ask South Sask Farmer on Youtube why he doesn't have a 3pt on any of his tractors, and you'll get an earful.

Out in the Plains the fields are so large that you're pulling large implements that aren't conducive to 3pt. Nobody moldboard plows anymore, so you don't need it for a semi-mounted plow. Everything is a trailing implement, or a self-propelled combine.

The 3pt is just in the way and more to go wrong.
 
(quoted from post at 08:05:09 11/13/20) Ask South Sask Farmer on Youtube why he doesn't have a 3pt on any of his

The 3pt is just in the way and more to go wrong.
Very true. When I got into farming almost 50 years ago the only thing we needed a three point hitch for was a snowblower. And I ended up having to build my own because we could not find one to put on the Cockshutts and the little Fords and Masseys that did have three point were over priced and too small.
First tractor I bought with factory three point hitch is the 2140 JD 3 years ago. And most of the time the three point is just in the way of "real" implements we use here.
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All of my tillage tools & most of the hay tools are all pulled by the drawbar. My mower used to bolt to the drawbar on my H. Now it's set up for the three point on the 806. Next year, it will be set up for the Fast Hitch. My Hydra-Boost, backhoe & post hole digger are the only other 3PT tools. Currently only have a back blade for the Fast Hitch on my 560.

Mike
 
3pth is more common on Dairy farm tractors, more so now than even ten years ago. Front 3pth discmower and a pair of discmowers one on the left one on the right , mounted on rear 3 pth. Lets the operator cut 30 foot of hay in one pass with a 200 hp tractor. There are also a good many semi mount one pass tillage and no till planting pieces now. 3pth bale processing machines. Farms that use the tractor all year round have less use for a draw bar only tractor. I have one draw bar only tractor,1953 IH W4, but it does have a pto.
 
row crop farming hardly ever uses the 3 point anymore. Roundup and other Herbicides with resistant crops have caused the cultivator to head to the scrap pile. That was the last thing I used the hitch for in farming. Do still have a snowblower that needs rebuild and then I will have to get the 3point working on that tractor again.

I do use the quick hitch and 3 point sometimes to help hook up. (chain on top hook to the hitch of implement to lift tongue) Also use the top hook and a short v belt to hold either hoses or wires in a safe place for the sprayer or planter. Other than that 3point is pretty much done, in row crop farming at least.

jt
 
Most 12 row planters and up use the 3pt and so do quite a few no-till drills sans the top link unless using a quick hitch. A fair number of large size disc mowers use at least the lower lift arms and bale wrappers.
 
The first 3pt tractor dad got was a 960 Ford in the early 70s. He really got us out of it, actually got a second narrow front 960 between the small disk, the 4 row cultivator, the hay mower, etc.

Semi mounted molboard plows hav been very popular here, an would be used on my bigger tractors.

Paul
 
I only have 3 point on two of my tractors. I use it for my chisel plow,field cultivator, 2 shank deep ripper and every few years to plow 4 or 5 acres. I forgot the little tractor (Deere 2040) has it and is used with a finish mower to trim road sides and one or tanks of spray with the hand gun on a 150 gallon sprayer. All our haying and forage harvesting is done without a three point. Tom
 
(quoted from post at 07:10:12 11/13/20) Anyone out there only using only tractors with a draw bar and no rear lift hitch of any kind?

If so, what are your crops and what implements do you pull?

Just curious.

Thanks!
Bill

Bareback tractor pretty well worthless to me as I operate many 3pt implements...but it would be reasonable to do a haying operation without 3pt if I had bigger implements. Current mower / tedder/ wrapper all need 3pt.
 
In the produce business I use many smaller 3-point attachments. I have nine tractors but still have to switch implements multiple times each week because when planting successive patches of each crop you have to do all the operations on small acreage repeatedly. Some of the 3-point things I use are tiller, plastic mulch layer, shielded sprayer, fertilizer spreader, cultivator, rotary hoe, disk, mower, produce sprayer, planter, plant setter, mulch lifter, field cultivator, and even the box I pick and sell sweetcorn in is a giant homemade 3-point carry-all.
 
I am not a farmer I just own a little land/ The draw bar on the 656 has not been on the tractor for years,it was in the way for the Bush Hog and the blade,same with my 504U.
 
I have only one tractor without a 3pt. It’s a parade only tractor. I’d hate a working tractor without my 3pts.
 
When I was farming. I did not use the 3pt on my summer fallow tractor, my 4430. My planting tractor was a 706. I rarely used the draw bar on that tractor.

When we had cattle and alfalfa hay in the 70s and 80s. We had a Farmall M with loader, Farmall H with sickle mower, Allis wd45 for the Baler. None of them had a 3pt.

When I quit farming in 2006 I had 14 acres I planted certified seed wheat. For that I used a 1948 Case SC and a 1930s VanBrunt drill.

Use to go to a lot of farm auctions in Kansas wheat country. It was rare if there was more than one tractor with a 3 PT on an auction. Several didn't have a PTO. Just hydraulics and a heavy swinging draw bar. I remember one auction that had a Case 1170 open station, no 3pt or PTO. I wonder how many of those Case made.
 
Here in East-Central Wi, the only time you will see a tractor without a 3 point is if it's a tractor built before 3 point was available. Even many of the non 3 point tractors such as a JD A or Farmall M have had after market hitches added.
 
(quoted from post at 11:10:12 11/13/20) Anyone out there only using only tractors with a draw bar and no rear lift hitch of any kind?

If so, what are your crops and what implements do you pull?

Just curious.

Thanks!
Bill

Cockshutt 30, my Case VAI, my Ford 800 might as well be just a drawbar since I have to do work on the top cover, a JD420 crawler, my Case VAC with a plow lift system that isn't adaptable to 3pt (not an Eagle). They work great for pulling spreaders, rakes, pull type bush hogs, trailer plows, all types of pull type finishing implements, haybines, balers, etc. My 3pt tractors tend to get used for bale spears, my tedder, a log lift/ball hitch doo-hickey, 3 pt plows, back blade and that's about it. A 3pt isn't essential if you have the right stuff, but I wouldn't choose a bareback over a 3 t model given equal machines and price.
 
I have one tractor without a three point hitch but I don’t use it anymore(Oliver 770). All the rest have three point hitch but I don’t use the three point hitch much on them as my main thing is square baling hay. I do have a three point hitch sickle bar I leave on my MM Jetstar and several smaller three point hitch implements that are used occasionally , usually on the smaller tractors.
 
I hate 3 pt stuff always wrestling with it to put on and take off. Tried blocking it up so I could just back up to it and pin on it settles and such. I don't miss 3pt. Only tractors without them are the H.MD,and the Stiegers. Only thing we pull with 3pt is the planter and it only uses the lift arms to pull that. The only things I would have to use 3 pt for is posthole digger and double hay rake rest is all drawbar implements.
 

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