timber prices?

swindave

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lumber prices in my area are sky high,
has standing timber prices high to?
or like a lot of times , the farmer loses out and the middle man makes good money?
has any one sold or getting ready to sale timber?
good or bad offer?
what type of tree? oak,popular pine or what?

thanks
 
Standing timber like red oak, poplar hickory ect, have really been in the tank for the last 6 mo. but have moved a little up in the last week or so. Middle Tennessee
 
In N MN stumpage prices are pretty bad, because so many paper mills have shut down, most to never restart. The sawmills seem to be running OK, but they don't use that much. For example, the paper mill in International Falls uses about 250 semi loads of wood a day, mostly aspen, thank goodness it's still running OK. We have some black spruce that should be cut, but it's only worth about $8, and only used for paper.
 
We have thousands of oak and cherry log coming out of my area from the Derecho, would bet that does not help.
 

Just like the prices for food in the store isn't tightly coupled to the price paid to farmers for the input stocks, the price of lumber is not tightly coupled to the price of timber. The "middle men" are putting forth much, if not most, of the labor and capital required to get finished goods to the market place.
 
The timber dynamic has changed. Potlatch used to haul many truck loads into the Brainerd mill for OSB. Same with Sartell for paper. Those places are gone. Now i see trucks hauling to Grove City and Long Prairie not for board or paper, but for bedding for the poultry industry. Weyerhauser was an early name in Midwest lumber. And with those times grew the lore of Paul Bunyan. Weyerhauser is a shell of its former self. Now we see more pallet shops then we do saw mills around central MinnesOta.
 
Store prices are terrible here. 2 x 4 x 8 common stud is 10 dollars. Be interesting to see the long term impact on home improvements and new home construction especially for those who borrow the money.
 
A friend got rained out one day last week and stopped by for a cool one. Told me they were using 10 foot 2 by 4's because they cost less than precuts. lot of scrap. joe N/Central Indiana
 
Lots of people are blaming high lumber prices on people building during the shut down and from storm damage repair from hurricanes.
So we could describe that as raising prices above normal levels during a crisis.
Isn't that called Price Gouging???

I mean selling bottled water for 3 times the normal price in a disaster area even if you are the only one with bottled water for 50 miles is against price gouging laws.
Shouldn't the same be true about lumber??

I am all for free enterprise and supply and demand but this is getting ridiculous.
 
Early/mid Sep in central NY. All prices $ per MBF.
Basswood four grades 100-400
Hard Maple several grades 500-1200
Hickory several 300-600
Red oak several 350-1300
Soft maple several 500-800
White oak 400-1000
and so on
I got 65%, logger got 35%
 

A week ago I needed two 12 foot boards. I went to HD. The bigger was 8 inch the price was $24.76. I also picked up rough lumber from my neighbor. 240 board feet for $60.00. He has been sawing way more than he used to, but he apparently isn't price gouging, or keeping all the money.
 
Bought logs for firewood this March, same price as a few years ago, $700, ill have to see if the go up now too.
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Ouch! I bought five 2 x 4 x 10 ft pressure treated last week and the bill was $54. incl tax, I was not happy. Sounds like it could have been worse. I may have to set up my Fathers old band saw mill and make my own.
 
Couple months ago I bought a 2 X 10 X 16 pressure treated { a shade over $50.00} cheaper than a rough cut the same size. I was told at that time that lumber had took a 80% jump in price.
 
I looked into that today.

Walnut here is sky high, cherry in the gutter, I do not know about hickory and oak.

One neighbor really got screwed, sold about 100K of Walnut for 3K, another neighbor is much more savy he regularly sells logs.
 
my brother is having all the ash harvested on his land in Ma, my land is next door and will have some taken out
 
Also has trickled down to the rough sawn business here in upstate NY. Area business that usually has green hemlock lumber piled in every one of their old outbuildings was almost out of stock this summer. I need a handful of boards for a house project and called on Saturday to be sure they were open. The lady that answered had to go count to see if they had enough for what I needed. Ended up going next door to the new Amish mill and saving a trip - but I was shocked.

Tim
 

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