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centash

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Neighbour was finishing several small fields of white beans today. He drove the combine from the fields to the truck to unload. Problem is, it has a 35 foot header and takes up the whole road and then some...?talk about a rolling road block!
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I didn't dare stand in front of him to take the picture!

Ben
 
saw one like that here the other day. Had a jeep preceding him with driver waving a red paper plate out the window.
Yeah, got me scratching.
 
I hate farmers that do that. 1/2 mile is ok but I've had to follow 5 miles in a semi because they refuse to pull into a lane.
 
Its a pretty common sight in other parts of the country like around here. We go down roads with 45ft headers. If we see someone coming which isn't very often, we pull over.
 
Yeah I followed a grain cart and tractor on the main highway about 4 miles into town the other day. Had a couple cars and a semi with grain trailer ahead of me and a string of cars and pick-ups behind. Its harvest time in the country folks, enjoy the scenery and breath. You'll get there eventually, or maybe you won't, depending on how uptight you become. gobble
 
As a wanna be farmer and occasional slow driver myself, I have respect for the farmers and generally do not get frustrated by them. I do have a problem when it comes to poor planning or idiocy. Slow moving is one thing but being a road block is another. Today for instance a farmer in a combine with probably a 20 foot header was stopped at a construction zone traffic light for who knows how long. I just know he had a line a mile long and growing behind him as I passed him. He was doing the right thing and waiting for when there was no oncoming traffic to cross, as this intersection is a reduced width intersection and he could not cross without blocking both lanes of traffic and it is also a blind intersection for the oncoming traffic. The other problem is this intersection is on a busy two lane highway and it was the afternoon rush hour. In his defense he may not have had much choice but to take this road as his other options were 6+ mile detours in either direction. I would have just liked to see him wait an hour or two before tackling that dangerous/congested stretch of road.
 
(quoted from post at 17:21:44 10/14/20) Neighbour was finishing several small fields of white beans today. He drove the combine from the fields to the truck to unload. Problem is, it has a 35 foot header and takes up the whole road and then some...?talk about a rolling road block!
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I didn't dare stand in front of him to take the picture!

Ben
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Scent ash, I thought you farmed/were one of "us", but apparently not.

I'm trying to feel your pain, though, for how many seconds were you inconvenienced by this?

I'm with "SV", if you like to eat, shut your pie hole!
 
On my road the header would get hung up on both sides at some places.When I move a wide piece of equipment I try to do it when there is very little traffic and
pull off to let traffic by when I can,also good to have a vehicle out front with flashers on.
 
Also cause laws to get passed to restrict farmers since farmers are a very small percentage of voters,a little common sense and respect goes a long way.Us farmers get a lot breaks with laws need to use some common sense and courtesy to keep it that way.
 
Where Centash lives there isn’t a very high population density, they have trouble keeping schools and churches open. So with that thought in mind, it’s not such a big deal if a guy travels a half mile or less between fields with a header on , particularly on a side road. I live about a 4 hour drive away from centash, and in a different world. Too close to cities , and folks looking to buy a house they might be able to keep up the payments on , move here. And you have lots of traffic, and a modern combine even without a head takes two thirds of a side road. Also on a two lane black top, most combines and self propelled forage harvesters are too big for a single lane, and must run the center line while riding the shoulder.
Yes folks get upset being stuck behind farm equipment, and I understand. As I see it it is like complaining about the noise of a train, when you buy a house near the track. Or complain about the noise from airplanes, while living near the airport. No tractors or combines on the street In the city, you could always live there
 
Sounds good but in reality its the folks moving in will go to their local gov't rep who is probably one of them too to get move restrictions put on farmers
if farmers abuse the rights to use the roads they have now.You're not going to force them to move they will force you out,just political reality as it is today.
 
Depends on the part of the country you're in. When I was out on the plains cutting wheat we would just drive down some of the county roads with the heads on for a few miles if there were no restricted areas to get through (bridges). If going through a town then we took the heads off. Here in MI I drive with the 8 row cornhead on for a few miles sometimes. I have driven a 1/4-1/2 mile with the 25 foot flex head on to go from one field to another where they are only across the road but drive entrance is the 1/4-1/2 mile apart. I was picking corn at my brothers place and had to go 1/4 mile each combine bin full to dump on the road. Field drive is to steep to get in with a truck and to wet for the other drive. so parked at house and roaded the whole 15 acres out that way one year. One of the BTO's was just loading trucks on the county road. Tied up the whole road for hours with 3 grain carts and a half dozen doubles loading grain onto them. 3 combines in the same 160 acres.
 
There are places around here where a family farm owns most of the township. They own the maintainer that blades the roads. They mow the ditches with their tractors. Move the snow with their tractors. Pay all the taxes for road maintenance. So I guess you could say they own the roads. Been that way for generations. Nice people.
 


It is just common sense. It depends on where you are. TF and Caterpillar guy apparently have it, Wore out and SV, well maybe not.
 
(quoted from post at 17:21:44 10/14/20) Neighbour was finishing several small fields of white beans today. He drove the combine from the fields to the truck to unload. Problem is, it has a 35 foot header and takes up the whole road and then some...?talk about a rolling road block!
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto59421.jpg">
I didn't dare stand in front of him to take the picture!

Ben
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I know. I know. Us farmers take up the road at planting and harvest. At four or five miles, my header goes on the cart. I confess that one field 3/4 mile I just drive it down the road.
The truth is farmers pay a big share of the property taxes and we like good roads to get our planting and harvest done also.

We and other drivers need to need to be courteous and use some more common sense. I do not want to get in a fight over road use.
 
Oh, I waa not inconvenienced much, but this is a busy county highway, and he has
been known to do this after dark, too.
Ben
 
In my area, maybe Texas as a whole, ag equipment has the right-of-way on country roads. The "crotch rocket" crowd don't like it but that's the way it is. Not hard to enforce when you are doing hay and going to a field with a hay spike on the 3 pt. Grin
 
Elimination of the most commonly used herbicides is already being worked on here in NY. A number of townships near the cities have ordinances forbidding operation of farm equipment other than daylight hours 9-6 during the day. Over width laws are enforced in some areas. Most city people have a very dated view of farmers and assume that farmers are extremely ignorant. Development still going on heavy as people are selling their homes near the city so a developer's dream is for the farmers to lose negotiating power in terms of price of land. If you can't farm by law then you can sit on the property and hope to pay the taxes or you sell for less than you would have 5 years ago. I don't expect much farming in another 25 years in NY. Just a few quaint vegetable and fruit operations to satisfy take a drive into the country crowd for a Saturday this time of year.
 
Where the heck are you in NY? Every town I know of in the Finger Lakes has "right to farm " laws.
 
Lots of farm equipment on our roads here in central Siberia all year around. Big manure hauler pulled by very large John Deere tractor got hit by a dump truck one day right out on US highway 10. Big mess on fresh concrete. (;>)) Nobody hurt. Woman killed when the car she was in collided with a combine one time. Traffic regulations now require flashing lights and safety chains on hitches which the WSP enforces on State and Federal highways but I've never heard of a Sheriff's Deputy citing anyone. Some, actually most, older farm equipment was never designed for some current requirements. A lot of us went into Fleet Farm and bought little battery powered flashing lights with a magnet to stick onto our gravity boxes. I designed my own safety chains for my 5 gravity wagon tounges. The mfg never gave it a thought at the time they were built. You will see a lot of odd looking farm equipment traversing our roadways. The cabbage trucks lose cabbages when they go around those silly little "round-a-bout"s. If you want fresh cabbage for free just go to a round-a-bout this time of year. Or fresh manure for your garden for that matter. Well, you'll have to excuse me while I drive my combine over to my other farm. (;>))
 
(quoted from post at 19:21:44 10/14/20) Neighbour was finishing several small fields of white beans today. He drove the combine from the fields to the truck to unload. Problem is, it has a 35 foot header and takes up the whole road and then some...?talk about a rolling road block!
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto59421.jpg">
I didn't dare stand in front of him to take the picture!

Ben
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As I once heard it put;

My Momma waited 9 months for me, you can wait 5 minutes.

People need to relax it's a week or two in the spring and fall when these guys are working non stop to finish harvesting the years worth of work before the weather turns on them.

Pretty common to see a couple of outfits like that passing each other from opposite directions and without exception they will all do there best to move over and make room for oncoming traffic.
 
I did not say that I was in a town where farming practices were being inhibited. I just wanted to point out that there are townships near cities such as Rochester, NY that have ordinances that limit farming practices. There is always the concern that these laws could spread to other townships where non-farmers greatly outnumber farmers at the voting booths. The operative word is near as in having a great number of people that have no connection to farming whatsoever. These same people are usually the ones that have recently purchased an expensive home in a given township and do not want to hear the sound of farm equipment operating among other things.
 
"As I once heard it put;

My Momma waited 9 months for me, you can wait 5 minutes.

People need to relax it's a week or two in the spring and fall when these guys are working non stop to finish harvesting the years worth of work before the weather turns on them.

Pretty common to see a couple of outfits like that passing each other from opposite directions and without exception they will all do there best to move over and make room for oncoming traffic."

"it's a week or two in the spring and fall when these guys are working non stop to finish harvesting the years worth of work before the weather turns on them"

BEST reply yet!
 
I had to travel by road this past Tuesday about 75 miles to my south. Beautiful fall foliage so I took a different route back home. I found it quite interesting that every farm I drove past (100s of farms) that had a political sign in it was for our incumbent President. Some of the signs were quite elaborate with numerous US Flags. Not one sign for the other guy.
 
Like my boss says, the road was put in for the farmer, Not the country dwellers. Farmers are feeding American, like said before just give em 5 mins.
 
SOme guys (yes Farmers too) don't exercise common courtesy either. You can pull off in a and let traffic pass and resume. that "extra 2 minutes" or less won't hurt the farmer either. goes both ways.

from a common sense safety perspective its in the farmer's interest to wait and be courteous as well. not going to get much harvested with equipment that's been smashed and waiting on police investigation ect ect. or loose your farm (even with liability ins) over not waiting a few minutes or taking time to trailer the header.

In Indiana it is against the law in impede traffic with over 3 vehicles following you. I"m sure its never enforced but it does not distinguish between a piece of Ag equipment or other vehicles.
 
I never have thought I owned the road but I dang Sure pay my share to use it,, problem here is the morons who think I should never be in their "Way" and that makes it a dangerous thing to be on the road as most will Fly around you and cut back in front of you to turn in 50 feet,, I also spent 20 years building,repairing and plowing the snow off roads to know they are far more inconsiderate idiot driving on them than good ones, sad but true facts,,
cnt
 
(quoted from post at 17:21:44 10/14/20) Neighbour was finishing several small fields of white beans today. He drove the combine from the fields to the truck to unload. Problem is, it has a 35 foot header and takes up the whole road and then some...?talk about a rolling road block!
<img src="https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cvphotos/cvphoto59421.jpg">
I didn't dare stand in front of him to take the picture!
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Yeah, look at all those cars he's holding up! It's a travesty!

Seriously folks, COMMON SENSE here. It wasn't like he was traveling miles and miles down a busy road with a 35' header. He was running a few hundred feet down what appears to be a sparsely-traveled road to dump into a truck.

Maybe there's no good way to get the truck into the field that's being harvested? Maybe it's a small field that doesn't merit moving the truck?
 
On our gravel road, I am pretty sure the deed has our property line at the center of the road. So we own half of it. except for areas where a person would have property on both sides, then they do own it all.

Gene
 
All for the farmers in general. My one gripe is hay spike or loader with any fork or bucket at height that would come through the windshield generally before the front of the tractor hit the vehicle.. Farmers drop the loader or rear spike where it is sure to impale someone at 3 or 4 feet above the road. Thank you all.
 
(quoted from post at 16:24:03 10/15/20) All for the farmers in general. My one gripe is hay spike or loader with any fork or bucket at height that would come through the windshield generally before the front of the tractor hit the vehicle.. Farmers drop the loader or rear spike where it is sure to impale someone at 3 or 4 feet above the road. Thank you all.
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3 or 4 feet above the road *IS* windshield height on most cars.

You really want the spike up high where most vehicles will slip under it and hit the tractor instead. However, that is counter to conventional wisdom of hauling loads as low as possible to prevent tipping over.

So the catch 22 is, you are either a schnitzel under your tractor in the ditch, or the idiot that plowed into you because he/she wasn't paying attention is now a shishkabob...
 

When I was in high school, a 16 year old girl was killed when her boyfriend ran into a tractor just after dark. He had a bale spear on, and no lights. You can guess how she died...
 

That's pretty common around here. Maybe not 35 foot headers but tractors and combines and equipment in tow like discs and sprayers and so on. If I'm directly behind the machine, it gives me a chance to try to figure out what it's for.

Gerrit
 
(quoted from post at 06:15:43 10/15/20) ... farmers are a very small percentage of voters,a little common sense and respect goes a long way ...
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Story goes (I wasn't present)... local politician was meeting with farmer constituents. They wanted law changes related to farm equipment on roads, eased regulations around farm plates, etc.

He looked at them and said: I support you. But you need to remember. The law was written years ago when farmers were the big businesses. You called most of the shots and were most of the voters. Law gives you flexibility other businesses don't have. But the population has grown and changed. If I follow your advice and bring this up at the appropriate committees I give it a strong likelihood that you'll end up with much more restriction by the time it gets all the way through. You simply don't have the numbers or the influence you used to have in the region at large. My advice is to keep quiet and enjoy what you have.

In our area of rapid population growth I think of this politician when I see some of the farm equipment on the roads. I don't mind waiting when I'm in the car. But some prudence is warranted. A major accident and the laws might change in a hurry. The makeup of voters here has shifted whether for good or ill.

I was on a road with two lanes and deep ditches smack on either side. Combine with header taking up both lanes. Road has a sharp curve. School bus rounded the curve and suddenly was face to face with a combine stretching ditch to ditch. It ended OK. But it made me think.
 
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