beef cattle breeds ?

swindave

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black angus seems to sell for more then any other breed in my area,
is it the same in your area?
are black angus that much better then other breeds?
even red angus seems to sell for less
and charlois, shorthorn and hereford are all lower priced then black angus in my area

how do cattle sell in your area?
 
Angus has managed to create a brand image, and selling a brand is important in marketing. If you feed and finish a pen of cattle, say a Hereford, an Angus, a Limousine and a Charolais all the same age, and basic condition, you will most likely find that they don’t achieve the desired finish at the same amount of days in feed, even though they all ate together at the same trough. The Hereford and Angus are smaller breeds, and will reach the finish at a lower carcass weight, and fewer days on feed. The Limousine and Charolais will both finish well, the meat will be of the same quality, but it will require more days on feed, and you will get a larger finished carcass. The packers are looking for an animal that weighs no more than 1200lb finish weight. Not a 15-1800 lb finished steer. Rate of saying gain, feed vs lb of gain is key.
 


Black angus is one of the most successful marketing stories in history. As Bruce said other breeds have higher feed efficiency but the higher sale price will usually offset it. Cattle don't have to be all black to qualify. I was surprised to read how much white or red they allow.
 
Angus cattle sell well in Australia as well. They have been doing objective measurement and correlating genetic gain for longer than any breed which has really helped their position. You can now compare estimated breeding values across a lot of breeds not just Angus.
 
Packers are looking for a carcass that will fit in the box. Large framed animals wont. Best rate of gain and shortest finished time was a Holstein, that was on a "Kept Fed" Program from birth. This only worked on Holsteins, they would finish around 1200# Y-2 Carcass, at about 13 months.
 
When you study EPD's of different breeds of cows (kinda hard to do since all use a different base line) Black Angus will come out on top.
They go from a lower birth weight to a higher weaning/yearling weight and have a better marbling score than other breeds on average under ideal conditions.
Years ago when others were just sitting on their hands the AAA took these figures and promoted their brand hard.
Not just to ranchers but to the public.
So today we have a brand that the public knows and recognizes.

So the next question most will ask is....
Why doesn't every rancher just raise Black Angus?
And the answer is "Under ideal conditions"
The problem with Black Angus is they are black.
Black cows do not do as well in the heat of the south.
One main reason a lot of cows coming out the south; be they red or black; have big ears.
Any breed of cow with big ears does better in the southern heat on marginal pasture.
 
In our area there is a good bit of packer competition so any color of beef will sell good if properly fatttened. Even the heavier fat cattle only have a slight discount per pound. I have a mostly black moma cow herd and finish my calves. The only drawback to the black cows is their disposition. It is very hard to get them to do anything they don't want to.Stir them up at all and they get very aggressive and almost dangerous. My cows are older range cattle hauled in from NE and KS. Maybe hand raised cattle would be easier to handle. Tom
 
I remember the day when i ssid I’d never run cows if they had to be black. Now thats all i run everything else takes a dock
 
Black is what sells. Aberdeen Angus is a major player in Premium grade beef. But Aberdeen is a town in NE Scotland which is cool season country. Adding some warm country blood to the mix, aka Brahman, gives the animal hot weather stamina. Therefore, my choice has been Brangus....⅜ Brahman and ⅝ Angus. When I sold off my heard in 2014, at the Durant, Ok. Stockyards, my 3 year old "Grade" Brangus bull brought $3200.
 

Mark
The Aberdeen Angus I see advertised on CL are not the same breed as regular American Angus cattle. I think they are shorter in height than AAA cattle

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Dad always said,,, black and fuzzy... always brought the best price... the black was the angus... the fuzzy meant that it would do well up north in the feed lots...

so at market, black and fuzzy brought the best prices..
 
(quoted from post at 06:58:17 09/27/20) Buyers pay more for Angus so to get the better price better be raising Angus regardless of the merits of other breeds.

I'd rather take the minor financial hit with a more docile breed than the physical abuse that those hateful animals dish out. They will curb-stomp you into the cement because it's Tuesday. One kicked me so hard I thought my femur was broken. She caught me square in the smartphone. Trying to load them out of the barn to go back to my cousin's, one of them ran him over like he wasn't even there.

You would think animals as angry and wound up as they are would taste terrible.
 
Angus here mostly.Not a mean disposition if they are handled right and if you buy bulls with a good personality you are going to get cows with a good disposition.If you do not keep heifers and buy someone elses you never know what you get.They make a good mother cow thats why you see a lot of them.
 
(quoted from post at 09:53:07 09/28/20)
(quoted from post at 06:58:17 09/27/20) Buyers pay more for Angus so to get the better price better be raising Angus regardless of the merits of other breeds.

I'd rather take the minor financial hit with a more docile breed than the physical abuse that those hateful animals dish out. They will curb-stomp you into the cement because it's Tuesday. One kicked me so hard I thought my femur was broken. She caught me square in the smartphone. Trying to load them out of the barn to go back to my cousin's, one of them ran him over like he wasn't even there.

You would think animals as angry and wound up as they are would taste terrible.

Shytty cattle and/or handling have nothing to do with the breed.
 
Jersey , angus had the beef flavor bred out them for the showcase appearance of the beef .Why cause in Osu and others ,they were working on that back in the 1960s .
Marketing research..
HouseWife’s won’t buy beef that doesn’t have that red look , they would leave a better steak because it didn’t have the correct look . Even though the non redder steak was better taste.
 
(quoted from post at 08:35:30 10/02/20) Jersey , angus had the beef flavor bred out them for the showcase appearance of the beef .Why cause in Osu and others ,they were working on that back in the 1960s .
Marketing research..
HouseWife s won t buy beef that doesn t have that red look , they would leave a better steak because it didn t have the correct look . Even though the non redder steak was better taste.
Never in the history of cattle has meat color been part of the selection process to determine breeding replacements. I honestly don't know where you could have heard that from, unless you misinterpreted what you heard. However, meat is packed in a mixture of gasses to preserve the color.
 

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