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what was the other companys tractor models that was sold against the farmall m?
their seems to be a lot of old m s around ,
what years would the farmall m been made?

were some models as popular as the m? thanks
 
Minneapolis Moline U. JD G. Allis WD45. Fordson Major Massy 44. McCormick W-6. These were in the ball park, there are many others. But the M outsold them. Good operator position, good solid engine, smooth, Full swinging drawbar, Hydraulics. Plenty of good reasons to put it to work. Most others had some (or most) of the features, but may not have had the dealership network. Jim
 
DC Case, Cockshut & Oliver 88 were also comparable. Both Cockshut and Oliver had the advantage of a live power take off, but IH, JD & Case all had excellent dealer networks. These were the "Big Three" of the ag power world. Each of the three sold more tractors than any two competitive tractor manufacturing companies other than the other two of the "Big Three". Allis Chalmers was probably the other major manufacturer that was close to total tractor production of the "Big Three", but they were much more diversified than JD, IH & Case at the time M's were being manufacturer. AC was already big in heavy construction equipment and engineering, designing and constructing items such as large electric generation equipment.
 
IH sold 270,140 M tractors. During the same time frame Ford sold the 8N, and 2N tractors. Over half a million in just the 8N. John Deere cranked out 300,000 A's. AC sold their WC and WD lines, 178,000 and 146,000 respectively.
Case sold 35,000 LA's and Massey Harris had their 81, 82, and 20 tractors.
There were a lot of manufacturers cranking them out. Many of them have been bought out and the lines vanished. It was farming's heyday. Those workhorses replaced the old horses. Now it is up to a few old fellows to keep those memories alive.
The M had plenty of competition.
 
I think Farmall M and H were manufactured between 1939 and 1952. Several versions of John Deere A & B were manufactured between 1934 and 1952. Farmall H and John Deere B both outsold the larger Farmall M and JD A. It's just that more M's survive today, probably because they have a foot clutch rather than the hand clutch that was still popular back then.

In the 1920's Fordson sold something like 750,000 of one model tractor, by far the highest selling tractor of all time. Only a few survived the WW2 scrap drives.
 
several other makes were built during the same time but none had the features of the M visibility smooth riding easy steering getting on and off beltpulley and quite a list and still around working. Ever lined up a belt on a hammer mill with an A John Deere lots of features rite there when comparing
 
I grew up with a Cockshutt 35 and at 40 hp , it would have been a fair match for the IH M tractor. Cockshutt also had two tractors larger, the Cockshutt 40 and 50. Available in the USA as Co-op tractors, painted orange and with model numbers like E3 and E4. These tractors could be purchased with a adjustable wide front or in tricycle narrow front. I think they were a far superior tractor to the IH M, because they offered a independent pto, and could be ordered with 3pth and in gas or diesel. Also the 6 speed transmission gave a much wider range of speeds for doing field operations. A very comfortable tractor to ride, with steering and visibility equal to the M.
 
Hi Bruce. The Co-op tractors were a mid-west thing. Here in the northeast Cockshutts were sold as Cockshutts. Smith Falls, On. isn't all that far from where I grew up in northern N.Y.
 
The 35 was the same tractor as the 40 and 50. It came along later after A-C acquired Buda so Cockshutt started using Hercules engines. Cockshutt and Oliver had the independent PTO about ten years before IH and Deere. FIL was going to buy a new tractor around 1950 and was looking at the H. A neighbor and good friend had an E3 and told him to get the COOP, "Once you try the PTO you won't want anything else." I still have both tractors.
 
An old friend, who died about 3 years ago at age 90, told me this story.
This occurred about 1/2 mile from my place.
My friend was out plowing a field with his Farmall M and some one came out and said they had run their car in the creek about 1/2 mile away.
Could he come pull it out?
The car was in a pretty deep creek with a high bank.
My friend unhooked his M and took off down the road.

Across the road in his field, a old fellow I knew, was plowing with his JD A and saw my friend leave with the M.
He unhooked his JD A and went down the road to see what was going on.
The Farmall was spinning and would not pull the car up the bank.
The other farmer told them to let him try.
The JD A was hooked up and jerked the car right up the bank.

My friend always admitted that the JD out pulled his Farmall that day.
Richard in NW SC
 

The later John Deere As may have competed with the Farmall M, but when the M was first introduced, the John Deere G was the competition.
 
IH built loyalty through their dealer network and had sold a pile of Regulars and F20's prior to the M in 1939. The M had different variations and M & W sold many accessories to make the M more. They were dependable and relatively simple to work on. You could tear one down in your barn and have it back together fast. Farmers were loyalists. You had your red crowd, green crowd, and the rest.
 
Ground feed with an unstyled A when I was a teenager. Sure don't remember having any problems lining up the belt.
 
Over 100000 MH 44s and variants were built in about the same time frame as the M and Super M. A row crop 44 would be a direct competitor to an M and both would have similar features. A 44 standards rival would be the W6, but the Masseys were more user friendly, especially the clutch pedal. All were good tractors.

Ben
 
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