Crimped hay today

tomstractorsandtoys · Aug 24, 2020

We have some third crop hay that we want to dry bale so today after cutting it with the Deere 920 diskbine I pulled the crimper out of the back of the shed and ran it through. It fluffed it up nice and the extra crimping should help the drying. Very hot and very humid the next few days. Will ted it in the morning and maybe again on Wed. and hopefully bale dry Thursday. Here is a pic of my 2510 and the crimper from last year. It is a Deere 22 with the intermeshing rolls. Has hyd lift which is nice to prevent wrapping on the headlands.Tom

Northvale PA · Aug 24, 2020

I use the star Tedder 2x per day. Seems to speed the drying up well. I assume you have one? These August days I hit it about 10am and noon if there is alfalfa. Then no touch until tomorrow.

tomstractorsandtoys · Aug 24, 2020

I would hate to try and make hay without my rotary tedder. Mine is a 4 basket Vermeer. I am sure it was built by someone else and just has their name on it. My neighbors never saw one untill I moved here 15 years ago. Everyone borrowed it a few times and now there are lots of them around. Tom

JayinNY · Aug 24, 2020

Nice, 336? 346? You did the same as me, replaced stalkstrippers with green ones!! Same i did on my jd 346!!

gab · Aug 24, 2020

How old is that crimper? We had a new John Deere probably in the early 60s. I hated that s.o.b., spent hours and hours laying under that thing cutting hay out of the crimpers. After a couple years the rolls started to chip apart on one side and it got traded off on either a New Idea or Cunningham, can't remember now but my troubles were over when that JD was gone.

SVcummins · Aug 25, 2020

Id love to find one of those crimpers

Traditional Farmer · Aug 25, 2020

Make a road trip to VA I'll give you one and know where there is another you can get for free or scrap price at the most.

Traditional Farmer · Aug 25, 2020

No problem drying hay here this week high 90's to mid 90's all week,good thing I have some very heavy hay to cut and bale.

showcrop · Aug 25, 2020

(quoted from post at 20:52:19 08/24/20) How old is that crimper? We had a new John Deere probably in the early 60s. I hated that s.o.b., spent hours and hours laying under that thing cutting hay out of the crimpers. After a couple years the rolls started to chip apart on one side and it got traded off on either a New Idea or Cunningham, can't remember now but my troubles were over when that JD was gone.

The farmer that I worked for in the 60s had a Cunningham. I spent hours under it cutting hay out. I bet that hydraulic lift makes a big difference. If I cut second cut today I could probably rake it after an hour and then bale after another hour. There would be no need to ted it.

Dick L · Aug 25, 2020

I have a Cunningham crimper and know you need a good box knife in your pocket.

Texasmark1 · Aug 25, 2020

I use the tedder on grasses and if you will have a good look at grass stems, you can see that the teddding process puts numerous "kinks" in the stems, letting moisture out.....so I't a double edged sword....not only are you flipping your crop to get it sun and aired out, you are venting it also.

I use a drum mower sometimes to cut some products and If I feel the need to crimp, I use an ole NH or IH..forget which Model 404. In finding it, after I bought a drum mower and found that I wanted to crimp some crops, I started driving around to farms in the area and looking for a lot of old equipment sitting around. Did find one such farm and the owner was willing. We walked his "relics" and found just what I wanted at the price I wanted.

Needed a chain and a drive sprocket.....Got what I needed from the local TSC and adapted/installed to/on the mower. Lubed everything up real good and away I went.

caterpillar guy · Aug 25, 2020

Don't have one and not sure if I would gain much I can most times mow one day and bale the next or following day, for dry hay. And no it dose not mold in the bale and have never burnt a barn down either. Been doing this way for 50 years. Dad and his dad before that. We haul and put in side right away. No leaving it out for days to do whatever it is you all do with it. I just baled Sunday and put in side yesterday.

grandpa Love · Aug 25, 2020

I'm closer to VA than SV Cummins is. Maybe I will beat him to it!

Traditional Farmer · Aug 25, 2020

First come first serve! Also have 2 AC crimpers.

jon f mn · Aug 25, 2020

Where do you live? Here it's barely wilted the next day and would never go through any square baler I know.

NY 986 · Aug 25, 2020

A pretty common practice until tenders showed up here around 1980. I remember riding with dad the day following the hay being cut and first crimped crimping it further.

jacksun65 · Aug 25, 2020

My nephew cut some knee high crimson clover two weeks ago with a new holland haybine. I liked the way it crimped the stalks but the windrow was to narrow and it clumped. So I went out in the morning after a day and tedded it when it had a good dew on it. baled it that afternoon. Some of the best clover hay I have seen in a long time.

SVcummins · Aug 25, 2020

In my prairie hay can cut and rake and bale the same day a lot of times

SVcummins · Aug 25, 2020

Go pick em up and then bring me one when you come to idaho

SVcummins · Aug 25, 2020

I would someday like to get that far away from home . Id buy that and that pan breaker you have

Northvale PA · Aug 25, 2020

I was told the yellow paint wasn’t being sprayed on anymore. Otherwise they are the same part. But, it looks goofy, like some missing front teeth. 336. We run two of them. Easy to keep interchangeable parts and easy to become a repair expert. If one baler goes down, I immediately examine that item on the other baler, and vice versa. Or look at how the other is adjusted, etc. Very, very helpful.

fixerupper · Aug 25, 2020

Dad used to own a crimper in partnership with a neighbor back in the 60's. It clanged so it must have had steel rollers. My job was to run the crimper pulled behind our 35 Deere A. I would have to stop to let the tractor cool down every round so it took awhile to do a 20 acre field. The 100 series IH mower I have now has a rear PTO to run a crimper but I have never looked for a crimper to pull behind the mower. I doubt if I would find one in this area but you never know.

tomstractorsandtoys · Aug 25, 2020

Northvale PA, I have a pair of bale wagons just like yours. I think they were made by Gap Hill wagons in PA. We redid them a year ago as the wood was bad and replaced it with steel beams and cross members. Tom

Leroy · Aug 25, 2020

The Cunningham was an early try that failed to produce a workable machine. The first Deere crimpers were the No. 1 and its big flaw was it only drove the one roller with that roller driving the second andwas very noisy but not moch problen with wrapping on rolls, yrying to run too low made that problem. Net machine was a No. 21 and they got the buggs out of it. Then they came with the No. 22 and last of line and forgot what they learned in maiking the 21. The 22 will not do half the job the 21 would. Fact is the 22 was so poor we went back to the AC with 2 rubber rolls and just a crusher, no crimmper about it.

Brendon-KS · Aug 25, 2020

Alfalfa and other stemmy crops usually respond well to extra conditioning. AGCO actually offers windrower headers with two pairs of conditioning rolls which in many conditions can save a day on the dry-down - these double-conditioner headers are quite popular in alfalfa-growing regions in the west. Grass hay doesn't typically have the stem structure that is affected much by crimping so with those crops laying it out wide and fluffy is the best option. I've always been intrigued by how vital tedders obviously are for eastern farmers (to get that wide and fluffy spread) - for over 20 years I've worked with hay producers all over the western US and have never once seen a tedder as part of the operation. It seems that when it comes to various farming practices the production of hay has more differences based on geography than most other operations. Forums like this are a neat way to see how differently the same basic farming job is done in various parts of the country (and world, for that matter).

Northvale PA · Aug 25, 2020

Yes, bought the steel pipe sides at Gap Hill Farm. Probably 15 years ago now. I have 3 of these on JD gears. I have a wood side wagon I rebuilt about 25 years ago. I am planning to go purchase another set of steel pipe sides again soon and rebuild that one. Those folks do a good job. We pop the racks off if we need a flat wagon. I am about tired of the wood sides. They are floppy. Before I built our pole barn the wagons sat outside so the weather did its harm of course.

Leroy · Aug 26, 2020

AC is a better outfit than that Deere No 22. Had both, the AC first, got the Deere and went back to the AC.

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